Life, uh, finds a way. On a serious note, have people had deterring experiences with spikes? I had spikes installed on my top-floor back porch and the pigeons

Life, uh, finds a way. On a serious note, have people had deterring experiences with spikes? I had spikes installed on my top-floor back porch and the pigeons kept hanging out anyway. A hawk came along last fall and was just chilling right on top em before deciding to adjust them out of their way.