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> I hope AMD and Nvidia start to release ARM SoC designs for laptops/desktops next year Or AMD / Intel could just make more power efficient x86 core? What woul
by Wytwwww 2y ago
> I hope AMD and Nvidia start to release ARM SoC designs for laptops/desktops next year
Or AMD / Intel could just make more power efficient x86 core? What would they gain by switching to ARM?
Also developing a competitive ARM core in less than a year is pretty much impossible, it took Qualcomm several years to catch up with ARMs cores (hence the title...). They even had to buy another company to accomplish that.
- forrestthewoods 2y ago> Or AMD / Intel could just make more power efficient x86 core? What would they gain by switching to ARM? I mixed some thoughts in rewrites. I hope Nvidia releases laptop/desktop SoC. AMD is getting better at x86 mobile, Steamdeck is pretty decent. I hope they keep getting better. I'd like to see high-end integrated GPU on a SoC from AMD for laptops/desktops. That doesn't exist yet. It requires a discrete GPU and there's a kajillion issues that stem from having two GPU paths. Just give me one SoC with shared memory and a competitive GPU. I don't care if it's ARM or x86. > Also developing a competitive ARM core in less than a year is pretty much impossible What makes you think they'd just be starting? Nvidia has been shipping ARM cores for years. Nintendo Switch is an Nvidia Tegra. Here's an article from October 2023 claiming that Nvidia is working on CPUs for Windows to ship in 2025. Qualcomm has an "ARM for Windows" exclusive that expires at some point in 2024. https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-make-arm-based-pc-chips-major-new-challenge-intel-2023-10-23/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-make-arm-based-pc-...
- ksec 2y agoThere is a different between design and developing a CPU Core like Oryon Core here, and Nvidia shipping ARM SoC which the CPU design itself that is from ARM, likely Cortex-X5.
- forrestthewoods 2y agoI don’t care who designs the CPU. I just would love to see a Nvidia SoC that targets laptops and desktops that has a high end GPU built in. Does that require them to design a custom CPU and not use an ARM design? I don’t know. I also don’t really care. Either way is fine!
- kcb 2y agoNvidia has a long history of design and developing their own CPU cores.
- Wytwwww 2y agoHaven't they mostly abandoned that after Tegra X2 which came out years ago?
- ksec 2y agoExactly. And that was nearly 10 years ago. As with all Custom ARM CPU design, it always ends up the same fate, arm 's ARM Cortex Design will catch up and always prove to provide better performance per dollar than owning its own design team. Oryon is great had it been launched in 2020 or 2021 but it will be competing against Cortex X5 soon. Not that I dont want Nvidia to have their own CPU design again. But judging from current trend and trajectory and very likely their perspective it doesn't make any sense. The future isn't in CPU but GPU or HSA.