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> And why is the iPad just a “Netflix machine” when tons of people use the iPad for professional creative use cases as well? For my family, the iPhone and othe

> And why is the iPad just a “Netflix machine” when tons of people use the iPad for professional creative use cases as well? For my family, the iPhone and other Apple devices are the ultimate productivity machines. The App Store, fantastic. Why? Because they are (rightly) terrified of installing apps on Windows. Or any “computer.” They’ve been burned too many times, warned too many times. Unless it’s Microsoft Office, it doesn’t happen. “Programs” are a threat. But apps? Apps don’t hurt you. iPhones and iPads turn on every day when you want them to, they act predictably, it feels consistent in a way a laptop is not. As for the speed of the chip only being useful for “consumption” - technology advances. That A10 Fusion powered iPad from 6 years ago stings to use now, even though it was plenty comfortable at the time. 5 years from now, nobody will regret an M4.

Rinzler89 2y ago
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- dagmx 2y ago
  Why are you allowed to have an opinion that trivializes how others work, but when other people do, then its astro-turfing?
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    How are "programs evil" and "apps good"? Without any convincing arguments to back up such claims, they do read like astro-turfing and just regurgitating Tim Cook's keynote speeches. This board is called Hacker News last time I checked, no?
    - datameta 2y ago
      I believe the point that was being made is that the perception, on average, is that iOS apps are carefully manicured and will not require troubleshooting by the typical user, as opposed to windows programs. There have been enough instances where this is true that for a certain slice of the population it is globally true. There is a different expectation of debugging from a consumer not versed in technology from those of us who work with/on it every day.
iforgotpassword 2y ago
> That A10 Fusion powered iPad from 6 years ago stings to use now, even though it was plenty comfortable at the time. 5 years from now, nobody will regret an M4. Sorry, I've been around for too long to believe this. :) No matter how big of a milestone, a jump in performance anything ever brought, it never stopped software from eventually using up all the resources available. Just another layer of abstraction, just another framework, just another useless ui gimmick and you'll see that the M4 isn't immune to this either.
effie 2y ago
Do you really think actual people ask for and want "ultimate productivity machines"? Btw this term reveals a true kool-aid drinker. I always wanted a machine that is reliable, supported by the software I want to use, and fast enough, and affordable. I never cared for "ultimate productivity" or winning in some bench. I accept that you do; that is something e.g. managers may talk or care about. But most of them do not seem to agree with you that Apple is the ultimate best, because most workers using computers are still on windows machines.

Rinzler89 2y ago

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dagmx 2y ago
Why are you allowed to have an opinion that trivializes how others work, but when other people do, then its astro-turfing?
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  How are "programs evil" and "apps good"? Without any convincing arguments to back up such claims, they do read like astro-turfing and just regurgitating Tim Cook's keynote speeches. This board is called Hacker News last time I checked, no?
  - datameta 2y ago
    I believe the point that was being made is that the perception, on average, is that iOS apps are carefully manicured and will not require troubleshooting by the typical user, as opposed to windows programs. There have been enough instances where this is true that for a certain slice of the population it is globally true. There is a different expectation of debugging from a consumer not versed in technology from those of us who work with/on it every day.

iforgotpassword 2y ago

> That A10 Fusion powered iPad from 6 years ago stings to use now, even though it was plenty comfortable at the time. 5 years from now, nobody will regret an M4. Sorry, I've been around for too long to believe this. :) No matter how big of a milestone, a jump in performance anything ever brought, it never stopped software from eventually using up all the resources available. Just another layer of abstraction, just another framework, just another useless ui gimmick and you'll see that the M4 isn't immune to this either.

effie 2y ago

Do you really think actual people ask for and want "ultimate productivity machines"? Btw this term reveals a true kool-aid drinker. I always wanted a machine that is reliable, supported by the software I want to use, and fast enough, and affordable. I never cared for "ultimate productivity" or winning in some bench. I accept that you do; that is something e.g. managers may talk or care about. But most of them do not seem to agree with you that Apple is the ultimate best, because most workers using computers are still on windows machines.