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> Care to share specifics? What was he ultimately wrong on? Here's a list of 9 counterfactual claims from just one video: https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/

> Care to share specifics? What was he ultimately wrong on? Here's a list of 9 counterfactual claims from just one video: https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_checked_thunderf00ts_spacex_busted_part_1/ https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_... Here's a well referenced article about the man, titled "The Never Sinking Ship: How Thunderf00t Sucks at Science (or Else He’s a Liar; Probably He’s Just a Liar)": https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 Appears he's also a creationist. > Bezos isn't working on anything like Starship It's called "Project Jarvis" and here's a whole article about it with photos: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue-origins-project-jarvis-test-tank/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue... > The only impressive thing about it is that they managed to do it with the second stage. Which means in only half-melted on re-entry and didn't tumble with engines forward like on the previous "flight". Cynicism is tiring. You don't have to find their achievements impressive. Their goal isn't to impress you. It seems to me that they're relentlessly accomplishing their goals step by step, as any good engineering team will. IFT5 is right around the corner. Booster has been loaded onto the OLM. I'm looking forward to all the improvements they'll be testing this go-round. It's a blast watching each test flight! > it's way simpler just to fling an empty pipe Not sure what you're attempting to describe here. If you think Starship is an empty pipe you aren't familiar with the details of it's construction.

scotty79 2y ago
> Here's a list of 9 counterfactual claims from just one video: https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_ https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_... I don't think counterfactual means what you think it means. Anyways, I didn't ask for minutia of objections people have against him. Just for one thing he called bs that eventually turned out to be as good as how it was advertised. > Here's a well referenced article about the man, titled "The Never Sinking Ship: How Thunderf00t Sucks at Science (or Else He’s a Liar; Probably He’s Just a Liar)": https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 Wow, such a well reasoned, calm and objective assessment form a non-partisan. > Appears he's also a creationist. Are you kidding me? He has the whole video cycle titled "Why do people laugh at creationists" from 16 years ago. It consists of 44 parts and is informative and hilarious. That's how I first encountered his content. Guy attacks beliefs semi-professionally. With first-hand science knowledge and math. He does that for more than a decade. People don't like their faith challenge so he accumulated a mountain of haters over the years. He doesn't care. It doesn't stop him from going after bs. Even if it's peddled by a billionaire. If you tried to prove that you don't know anything about him apart from the name and smearing produced by faithful that hate him and hate that he doesn't agree with their bs ... you couldn't have done it better. > It's called "Project Jarvis" and here's a whole article about it with photos: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue... Thanks, but it's just booster recovery project for New Glenn which is in direct competition with Falcon Heavy not Starship. > Cynicism is tiring. Only for people who can't bare reality. > I'm looking forward to all the improvements they'll be testing this go-round. It's a blast watching each test flight! I can agree with that. Fireworks are always fun to watch. I'll enjoy it even more with grounded Thunderf00t commentary. I don't need cheerleaders to enjoy. > If you think Starship is an empty pipe you aren't familiar with the details of it's construction. You can see insides of the Starship on the video from the flight tests. Apart from engines and tanks it's empty, it's not even pressurized. There's a girder across to prevent it from collapsing. Whatever. Enjoy. I see that you are a fervent believer so this conversation pretty much ran its course. But I'm thankful to you for giving me an idea for the best explanation why Elon is doing what he's doing. Milestone was a key word.
- timschmidt 2y ago
  > People don't like their faith [sic] challenge[d] Great demonstration. Thanks for pointing that out as a motivation.

scotty79 2y ago

> Here's a list of 9 counterfactual claims from just one video: https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_ https://www.reddit.com/r/thunderf00t/comments/lrhznb/i_fact_... I don't think counterfactual means what you think it means. Anyways, I didn't ask for minutia of objections people have against him. Just for one thing he called bs that eventually turned out to be as good as how it was advertised. > Here's a well referenced article about the man, titled "The Never Sinking Ship: How Thunderf00t Sucks at Science (or Else He’s a Liar; Probably He’s Just a Liar)": https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/9345 Wow, such a well reasoned, calm and objective assessment form a non-partisan. > Appears he's also a creationist. Are you kidding me? He has the whole video cycle titled "Why do people laugh at creationists" from 16 years ago. It consists of 44 parts and is informative and hilarious. That's how I first encountered his content. Guy attacks beliefs semi-professionally. With first-hand science knowledge and math. He does that for more than a decade. People don't like their faith challenge so he accumulated a mountain of haters over the years. He doesn't care. It doesn't stop him from going after bs. Even if it's peddled by a billionaire. If you tried to prove that you don't know anything about him apart from the name and smearing produced by faithful that hate him and hate that he doesn't agree with their bs ... you couldn't have done it better. > It's called "Project Jarvis" and here's a whole article about it with photos: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/first-images-of-blue... Thanks, but it's just booster recovery project for New Glenn which is in direct competition with Falcon Heavy not Starship. > Cynicism is tiring. Only for people who can't bare reality. > I'm looking forward to all the improvements they'll be testing this go-round. It's a blast watching each test flight! I can agree with that. Fireworks are always fun to watch. I'll enjoy it even more with grounded Thunderf00t commentary. I don't need cheerleaders to enjoy. > If you think Starship is an empty pipe you aren't familiar with the details of it's construction. You can see insides of the Starship on the video from the flight tests. Apart from engines and tanks it's empty, it's not even pressurized. There's a girder across to prevent it from collapsing. Whatever. Enjoy. I see that you are a fervent believer so this conversation pretty much ran its course. But I'm thankful to you for giving me an idea for the best explanation why Elon is doing what he's doing. Milestone was a key word.

timschmidt 2y ago
> People don't like their faith [sic] challenge[d] Great demonstration. Thanks for pointing that out as a motivation.