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I have crohn's disease which is also autoimmune and directly related to ingesting certain things. I think a lot of autoimmunity has to do with intestinal bacter

I have crohn's disease which is also autoimmune and directly related to ingesting certain things. I think a lot of autoimmunity has to do with intestinal bacteria and their relationship to our innate immune system. And to a lesser extent it seems that almost every aspect of life is effected by what we eat, how we feel, how we act, how we grow and die. Maybe in 100 years we'll have fecal tests and bacteria pills to catch and prevent a paradigm shifting amount of ailments. I know I've tried tons of different diets and exclusions and things. I've got a pretty good list in my head of what i can and can't eat but it seems to change q bit every couple years. I used to not tolerate bread but eat sugar and it seems to have switched some time in the last decade. Anyways, i wish you luck with your journey and I'm glad you've found something that works for you

aroopchandra 2y ago
I got fecal tests and used expensive supplements and vitamins as recommended by a functional doctor, but they didn't help. I looked into how immune suppression medicines like Benlysta work and tried to mimic their effects naturally to get relief and hopefully stop using medicine. I think food can help manage many side effects of immune-related diseases, even if it can't cure them.
- lhoff 2y ago
  You might want to try the Wim Hof Method. I don't believe in everthing Wim Hof attributes to his method but when it comes to immune response, there is scientific evidence that it does indeed result in an increase of IL-10, which is anti inflammatory. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/
nanomonkey 2y ago
Quite a few of my friend's that were diagnosed with chron's disease found out that the main culprit seemed to be flour and other foodstuff that had been treated with glyphosate (Roundup). After switching to sourdough bread made from organic flours, and similar choices for masa harina (nixtamilated corn) their issues went away. This was after years of not eating anything with fiber, gluten, or nightshades. Their theory was that the herbicides would kill off their gut's natural biome and cause an inability process carbohydrates, fiber and maintain a intestinal mucus layer. YMMV...but just passing along what has worked for a few of my friends.
- skrebbel 2y ago
  > after years of not eating anything with fiber, You mean they avoided vegetables entirely?
  - blix 2y ago
    My doctor told me after an intestinal surgery that I would never be able to eat vegetables again.
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  - nanomonkey 2y ago
    Yes, there is a whole subsection of the internet that seems to think that vegetables are a net negative. They site doctors that suggest that fiber causes irritation in individuals with compromised intestines (leaky gut syndrome, etc.). It's exhausting having conversations with them as a vegetarian as they seem to think the only healthy way to eat is bone broth, butter, mct oil, and meat.
    - woleium 2y ago
      it’s probably _a_ way. The Saami live like this, with some berries for vit c. I wouldn’t want to do it though!
    - mzz80 2y ago
      It’s common for someone in a flare of an IBD to be unable to eat vegetables without irritation. You should seek to understand the root cause of an individual’s experience instead of invalidating their experience due to your own. If they become healthier then they should be able to increase vegetable intake which will further increase their health.
- novok 2y ago
  There is also other things like brominated flour which is illegal in brazil, the eu, india and canada but not the USA

aroopchandra 2y ago

I got fecal tests and used expensive supplements and vitamins as recommended by a functional doctor, but they didn't help. I looked into how immune suppression medicines like Benlysta work and tried to mimic their effects naturally to get relief and hopefully stop using medicine. I think food can help manage many side effects of immune-related diseases, even if it can't cure them.

lhoff 2y ago
You might want to try the Wim Hof Method. I don't believe in everthing Wim Hof attributes to his method but when it comes to immune response, there is scientific evidence that it does indeed result in an increase of IL-10, which is anti inflammatory. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/

nanomonkey 2y ago

Quite a few of my friend's that were diagnosed with chron's disease found out that the main culprit seemed to be flour and other foodstuff that had been treated with glyphosate (Roundup). After switching to sourdough bread made from organic flours, and similar choices for masa harina (nixtamilated corn) their issues went away. This was after years of not eating anything with fiber, gluten, or nightshades. Their theory was that the herbicides would kill off their gut's natural biome and cause an inability process carbohydrates, fiber and maintain a intestinal mucus layer. YMMV...but just passing along what has worked for a few of my friends.

skrebbel 2y ago
> after years of not eating anything with fiber, You mean they avoided vegetables entirely?
- blix 2y ago
  My doctor told me after an intestinal surgery that I would never be able to eat vegetables again.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
- nanomonkey 2y ago
  Yes, there is a whole subsection of the internet that seems to think that vegetables are a net negative. They site doctors that suggest that fiber causes irritation in individuals with compromised intestines (leaky gut syndrome, etc.). It's exhausting having conversations with them as a vegetarian as they seem to think the only healthy way to eat is bone broth, butter, mct oil, and meat.
  - woleium 2y ago
    it’s probably _a_ way. The Saami live like this, with some berries for vit c. I wouldn’t want to do it though!
  - mzz80 2y ago
    It’s common for someone in a flare of an IBD to be unable to eat vegetables without irritation. You should seek to understand the root cause of an individual’s experience instead of invalidating their experience due to your own. If they become healthier then they should be able to increase vegetable intake which will further increase their health.
novok 2y ago
There is also other things like brominated flour which is illegal in brazil, the eu, india and canada but not the USA