> Ultimately anything can only give you feelings. Hand-wavy dismissals are not a discussion argument. I don't accept this as a rebuttal. > You feel like being

> Ultimately anything can only give you feelings. Hand-wavy dismissals are not a discussion argument. I don't accept this as a rebuttal. > You feel like being excellent should give you money, fame and ladies. And that's called "tearing down a straw man". Why are you arguing in such a bad faith? The only thing most of us who finally smartened up about the labor market is this: profit must correspond with reward. You and others seem to conflate this pragmatic view with the suggestion that we do sloppy work. No, we do our work just fine and we do it well, reliably, and on schedule. What we do NOT do is to go above and beyond. But you and others seem to get triggered on other topics (mostly about human excellence and "we as a society must all help") that have almost nothing to do with the discussed topic and give your takes not on it, but on these other things. Finally, profit being an "extrinsic goal" is a needless philosophization and does not advance any discussion.