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Loosen them how? By importing poor, uneducated people and putting them to work as software engineers? Japan is already stupidly easy to immigrate to if you're

Loosen them how? By importing poor, uneducated people and putting them to work as software engineers? Japan is already stupidly easy to immigrate to if you're an experienced software engineer, probably easier than any country in the world. The main obstacle is the language barrier, but there are a fair number of companies recruiting foreign engineers and offering workplaces that use English, because there's a huge shortage of software engineers here, which largely stems from how software has traditionally been treated very poorly compared to other more traditional engineering disciplines here.

maeil 2y ago
Has that shortage actually been driving up salaries? From what I know, Japan has the worst "SWE Salary:Cost of living" ratio anywhere in the developed world.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  Citation needed. My salary here is great by local standards. If you're comparing to the US, don't. Salaries in the US for SWE are much higher than anywhere else.
  - maeil 2y ago
    I was intentional when I said "the developed world", so including Western-Europe, South Korea and so on, not just the US. The fact you're on HN speaking perfect English already means you're likely to be very much above the median, salary-wise.
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johnnyanmac 2y ago
> if you're an experienced software engineer I am in a discussion about tech, but I was talking more in a general sense. They basically only let highly skilled personnel in and there's still quite a few stipulations with their Visa program.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  Like what exactly? And what's wrong with focusing on skilled workers?
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    >Like what exactly Most stipulations basically requiring to be highly educated and experienced already. If you don't have those, you need to have some Japanese proficiency. If you are in one of those categories, the work visa is relatively lax if we're comparing to the process to immigrate into the US or UK. Only real issue is their economy isn't doing great right now, so you'll find it harder than normal to find roles hiring unless you're extremely specialized (so, no different from the US right now). > And what's wrong with focusing on skilled workers? Same thing that's happening in tech as we speak. You only look for Purple Squirrels and you may as well not have a job ad. Meanwhile, most squirrels aren't moving abroad to a country to take a huge pay cut unless they are very satisfied with their savings/stock.

maeil 2y ago

Has that shortage actually been driving up salaries? From what I know, Japan has the worst "SWE Salary:Cost of living" ratio anywhere in the developed world.

shiroiushi 2y ago
Citation needed. My salary here is great by local standards. If you're comparing to the US, don't. Salaries in the US for SWE are much higher than anywhere else.
- maeil 2y ago
  I was intentional when I said "the developed world", so including Western-Europe, South Korea and so on, not just the US. The fact you're on HN speaking perfect English already means you're likely to be very much above the median, salary-wise.
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johnnyanmac 2y ago

> if you're an experienced software engineer I am in a discussion about tech, but I was talking more in a general sense. They basically only let highly skilled personnel in and there's still quite a few stipulations with their Visa program.

shiroiushi 2y ago
Like what exactly? And what's wrong with focusing on skilled workers?
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  >Like what exactly Most stipulations basically requiring to be highly educated and experienced already. If you don't have those, you need to have some Japanese proficiency. If you are in one of those categories, the work visa is relatively lax if we're comparing to the process to immigrate into the US or UK. Only real issue is their economy isn't doing great right now, so you'll find it harder than normal to find roles hiring unless you're extremely specialized (so, no different from the US right now). > And what's wrong with focusing on skilled workers? Same thing that's happening in tech as we speak. You only look for Purple Squirrels and you may as well not have a job ad. Meanwhile, most squirrels aren't moving abroad to a country to take a huge pay cut unless they are very satisfied with their savings/stock.