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It all depends on how you define language and culture, and that's before you delve into a host of other unstated assumptions. The whole debate is driven by unst
by wahern 2y ago
It all depends on how you define language and culture, and that's before you delve into a host of other unstated assumptions. The whole debate is driven by unstated assumptions, or assumptions and thresholds which are more-or-less pulled out of thin air, notwithstanding any associated quantifications. And these assumptions are constantly in flux.
For example, once upon a time "tool use" was considered a unique capability of humans, and from that was derived definitions of intelligence, etc. Well, turns out lots of other animals use tools, at least under that original, somewhat simplistic definition. But what's the significance of that fact--that other animals use tools? Does it mean they're also intelligent, just like humans? People have argued as much, but the "tool use" test was basically pulled out of someone's butt to begin with; the fact we all agree other animals use tools, now, doesn't actually imply much of anything.
People draw conclusions where none can be drawn. And people establish presumptions and definitions to fit their preferred conclusions.
- engineer_22 2y ago> People draw conclusions where none can be drawn. And people establish presumptions and definitions to fit their preferred conclusions. In furtherance of my point. We struggle enough with interpersonal communication. Communication with intelligent animals, of which the examples are many and diverse, has to this point been unmanageable.