I still don’t see how fines would hurt shareholders, realistically. We need some kind of punishment, which is why we have fines, but it’s good to recognize tha

I still don’t see how fines would hurt shareholders, realistically. We need some kind of punishment, which is why we have fines, but it’s good to recognize that, at least right now, they don’t really do the job they’re meant to do. > In any case, if laws try to very narrowly focus liability, you're also asking for games of musical chairs Yes, this is true. It’s a hard problem.