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You should look up the lawsuit that led to chevron being overturned, maybe you wouldn’t be making such a caricature out of it. Hint: it wasn’t some big corpora

You should look up the lawsuit that led to chevron being overturned, maybe you wouldn’t be making such a caricature out of it. Hint: it wasn’t some big corporation looking to skirt regulations.

Hikikomori 2y ago
Yep, just two brothers named Koch.
azemetre 2y ago
The political and business environments are absolutely not the same when a chevron was ruled. It’s completely disingenuous to say corpos will be ethical when you see what kinds of companies fight the EPA. Corporations have vastly more power and influence in our government than they did in the 50s or 60s or 70s or 80s. I do not trust these entities to stop rat fucking innocent Americans because they had the audacity to not want to be poisoned.
affinepplan 2y ago
Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo was brought by Ryan Mulvey and Eric Bolinder of the Americans for Prosperity, which is the primary advocacy arm of the Koch brothers to weaken various regulatory bodies. Relentless, Inc. v. Department of Commerce was brought by lawyers from the New Civil Liberties Alliance, which is also funded by the Koch brothers so hint: it definitely was "big" entities looking to skirt regulations
rootusrootus 2y ago
I don't know if I put much stock in that. It is well known that powerful interests choose the most sympathetic litigant possible when they want to see the court make a ruling that will ultimately be in their benefit.
jorblumesea 2y ago
You mean the small poor business whose case was bankrolled by the Koch brothers? it's just a vehicle for deregulation, funded and powered by large corporate interests.
- edgyquant 2y ago
  So you’re saying the small business wasn’t actually suffering at the hand of a government agency?
  - jorblumesea 2y ago
    Big picture, yes this won't do anything for small business. They won't be able to afford expensive court fees and challenges. Koch could not care about what a tiny business gets up to or some kind of business equity problem. The decision has very little to do with a small business problem and the real reason for all of this is complete deregulation of vast corporate enterprises who will challenge every single environmental regulation. To paint it as "small business stands up to big govt" is at best, hopelessly naive, and at worst, corporate propaganda and outright lies.

You should look up the lawsuit that led to chevron being overturned, maybe you wouldn’t be making such a caricature out of it. Hint: it wasn’t some big corporation looking to skirt regulations.

Hikikomori 2y ago

Yep, just two brothers named Koch.

azemetre 2y ago

The political and business environments are absolutely not the same when a chevron was ruled. It’s completely disingenuous to say corpos will be ethical when you see what kinds of companies fight the EPA. Corporations have vastly more power and influence in our government than they did in the 50s or 60s or 70s or 80s. I do not trust these entities to stop rat fucking innocent Americans because they had the audacity to not want to be poisoned.

affinepplan 2y ago

Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo was brought by Ryan Mulvey and Eric Bolinder of the Americans for Prosperity, which is the primary advocacy arm of the Koch brothers to weaken various regulatory bodies. Relentless, Inc. v. Department of Commerce was brought by lawyers from the New Civil Liberties Alliance, which is also funded by the Koch brothers so hint: it definitely was "big" entities looking to skirt regulations

rootusrootus 2y ago

I don't know if I put much stock in that. It is well known that powerful interests choose the most sympathetic litigant possible when they want to see the court make a ruling that will ultimately be in their benefit.

jorblumesea 2y ago

You mean the small poor business whose case was bankrolled by the Koch brothers? it's just a vehicle for deregulation, funded and powered by large corporate interests.

edgyquant 2y ago
So you’re saying the small business wasn’t actually suffering at the hand of a government agency?
- jorblumesea 2y ago
  Big picture, yes this won't do anything for small business. They won't be able to afford expensive court fees and challenges. Koch could not care about what a tiny business gets up to or some kind of business equity problem. The decision has very little to do with a small business problem and the real reason for all of this is complete deregulation of vast corporate enterprises who will challenge every single environmental regulation. To paint it as "small business stands up to big govt" is at best, hopelessly naive, and at worst, corporate propaganda and outright lies.