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Hidden? It's the EU people looking at things with their EU glasses and the don't see any problem, they see opportunities to gain power. To bleed taxpayers out o

Hidden? It's the EU people looking at things with their EU glasses and the don't see any problem, they see opportunities to gain power. To bleed taxpayers out of more money and to get the local governments on a tight ship with the controlling agency that check if people are paying their taxes/ not abusing their system. And on top of that cutbacks on all the things that cost the government money. This EU ship hopefully sinks, so we can just build our own raft again. Why can't we just be all tiny countries? If you wanna be part of some big thing go live where the big thing is.

nwatson 14y ago
Europe eventually will move beyond the clay + iron phase of the last few hundred years and become the big thing. Powers that be will 'force everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark . . .' Makes for interesting reading anyway. No more cheating on taxes in those days.
pinaceae 14y ago
because only this tight connection between germany, france and the uk is providing europe's longest period of peace - ever. the while thing started in the 50s and is the greatest, most succesful peace initiative ever.
- adventureful 14y ago
  The EU integration has certainly helped, but so has the fact that Western Europe no longer has any super power nations and no single country with an overwhelming advantage. For the last 50 years the US has towered over everybody in Western Europe militarily. The US shouldering the military burden has reduced European military build-up and capacity. Effectively the same thing it has done regarding Japan (you can argue whether that's good or bad). Who's going to try to assault France or Britain anyway? They have substantial nuclear weapons capability. They'd wipe out Germany in one launch round. Then besides Germany, who else in Western Europe could even be a credible threat to peace? Nobody. So long as Britain and France have long range strike capability with nukes it'd be impossible to win a war against them, and all but makes an EU war pointless. Nobody wants to get into a war that is literally impossible to win.

nwatson 14y ago

Europe eventually will move beyond the clay + iron phase of the last few hundred years and become the big thing. Powers that be will 'force everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark . . .' Makes for interesting reading anyway. No more cheating on taxes in those days.

pinaceae 14y ago

because only this tight connection between germany, france and the uk is providing europe's longest period of peace - ever. the while thing started in the 50s and is the greatest, most succesful peace initiative ever.

adventureful 14y ago
The EU integration has certainly helped, but so has the fact that Western Europe no longer has any super power nations and no single country with an overwhelming advantage. For the last 50 years the US has towered over everybody in Western Europe militarily. The US shouldering the military burden has reduced European military build-up and capacity. Effectively the same thing it has done regarding Japan (you can argue whether that's good or bad). Who's going to try to assault France or Britain anyway? They have substantial nuclear weapons capability. They'd wipe out Germany in one launch round. Then besides Germany, who else in Western Europe could even be a credible threat to peace? Nobody. So long as Britain and France have long range strike capability with nukes it'd be impossible to win a war against them, and all but makes an EU war pointless. Nobody wants to get into a war that is literally impossible to win.