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If your kid can't swim you shouldn't let it go in on its own. There is no reason to spoil the fun for everyone. You can ban all fun or tell parents to use comm
by sloowm 2y ago
If your kid can't swim you shouldn't let it go in on its own. There is no reason to spoil the fun for everyone.
You can ban all fun or tell parents to use common sense and have a backup for idiot parents.
In this specific pool I would also create a barrier/line between the shallow bit of the pool and the deep end. In some of the videos the kids end up in the deep end by just playing, even without the floating devices.
Also kids should be taught to swim at a young age. At least where I'm from there are many places where kids can fall into the water.
- Y_Y 2y ago> There is no reason to spoil the fun for everyone. Except for the drowning
- heavenlyblue 2y ago[flagged]
- ffsm8 2y agoPeople are seriously overprotective of any and all children. Issit sad if a kid dies? Sure. Doesn't man you should isolate them from anything that could potentially harm them, as such babying is also harmful over the long run.
- EForEndeavour 2y agoMaybe I'm missing this: what led to the statement that people are seriously overprotective of any and all children? This thread is pointing out that kids who can't swim are allowed in pools, which is dangerous and leads to preventable deaths. Isn't that the opposite of people being seriously overprotective?
- Sebb767 2y agoThe root comment said to not allow floating devices in pools with children that can't swim, but only clarified the condition in the latter sentence. The first response (mis-)interpreted it as "do not allow floating devices period" and argued against that, with the discussion getting sidetracked from them on.
- zer00eyz 2y agoWe should require seatbelts in cars. It should be your choice to wear one. If your kid can't swim, it's your job to teach them or keep them safe. If you're not doing that, should it not be on you, that Childs parent, to deal with it? Where does personal responsibility start, and social intervention begin? Autonomy, responsibility, individuality are the things that should be under discussion... Not save the children. You might think that's harsh but add in privacy to the above list, and make the topic "searching all your pictures for CP" (as some laws are attempting to do) it suddenly becomes over-reach.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoSeatbelts should be mandatory though. There's no legitimate reason not to wear one.
- zer00eyz 2y agoWhy? WHy is it your job, or any one else's, to tell someone what they should do for their own good? Cars are unsafe we should ban them. People might drown we should mandate swimming lessons... It's an arbitrary line, and why is one different than any other?
- ffsm8 2y ago> WHy is it your job, or any one else's, to tell someone what they should do for their own good? The line isn't quiet as arbitrary as you make it sound. Itd be a different story if your health insurance wouldn't have to pay if you didn't wear it etc. There is also the extra inconvenience of having the road blocked for extended periods of time whenever someone offs themselves etc. Pretty much every personal safety regulation happens because other people are getting impacted/inconvenienced in some way
- EForEndeavour 2y agoThe extreme ends of the individual-collective continuum (complete lack of laws in favor of autonomy and personal responsibility vs. overbearing legal/regulatory intervention that undermines autonomy) make it clear that real life needs to be somewhere in the middle.
- tbrake 2y agoThat is not suffering and you should be embarrassed to type like that.
- aniviacat 2y agoYou are assigning an arbitrary minimum value of suffering to the term "suffering". That is needless. Suffering a tiny little bit from losing the option to play with floatation devices is still suffering.