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Can't have those poor people having sugar in their diet, it's bad for them. Sugar is for the rich.

spacebanana7 2y ago
There’s actually a paradoxical situation in most developed countries where the poorer you are, the more likely you are to be overweight. Making unhealthy food too expensive for poor people is a blunt instrument of course, but it does have an empirical case. https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.j163# https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.j163#
- rightbyte 2y ago
  Unhealthy food is allready way more expansive than cooking your own. I guess the main culprit is lack of energy and time to cook, not the price.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    Time is a kind of a price too. Also, look up "food desert" some time. It's real.
  - alias_neo 2y ago
    I disagree when it comes to the UK. Healthy food; fresh fruit, vegetables and meat is significantly more expensive than processed food. There are/were plenty of British YouTuber's doing "how cheap can you eat" meals through COVID and the cost of living crisis, they started at ~£1 for a bare-bones meal for one, they were at ~£1.50 last I looked; that's hopefully improving with the recent falls in inflation, but still and issue for many. Of course the same demographic who can't afford the ingredients to cook their own healthy meals can often also not afford the time to prepare them either; due to working long hours, not being able to afford care for their children, etc. Food banks are very much on the rise in many parts of the UK[0] and we have millions of children in poverty[1], a significant and heart breaking statistic for such a country. [0] https://www.trusselltrust.org/news-and-blog/latest-stats/end-year-stats/#factsheets https://www.trusselltrust.org/news-and-blog/latest-stats/end... [1] https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/poverty-facts-and-figures https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/poverty-facts-and-figures
- alias_neo 2y ago
  I think everyone missed the sarcasm my comment was dripping with, British humour I guess. I'll take the downvotes. I understand the issues with sugar, I have no arguments with it, but it is, as you say, a blunt instrument. Sadly, the opposite case; healthy food, is also too expensive for the same demographic this affects; that's a separate and independent problem though, and the evidence in OP seems to suggest the tax is (somewhat) effective, so, again, no arguments from me. EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about in the UK when I talk about a demographic.

There’s actually a paradoxical situation in most developed countries where the poorer you are, the more likely you are to be overweight. Making unhealthy food too expensive for poor people is a blunt instrument of course, but it does have an empirical case. https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.j163# https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.j163#

rightbyte 2y ago
Unhealthy food is allready way more expansive than cooking your own. I guess the main culprit is lack of energy and time to cook, not the price.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Time is a kind of a price too. Also, look up "food desert" some time. It's real.
- alias_neo 2y ago
  I disagree when it comes to the UK. Healthy food; fresh fruit, vegetables and meat is significantly more expensive than processed food. There are/were plenty of British YouTuber's doing "how cheap can you eat" meals through COVID and the cost of living crisis, they started at ~£1 for a bare-bones meal for one, they were at ~£1.50 last I looked; that's hopefully improving with the recent falls in inflation, but still and issue for many. Of course the same demographic who can't afford the ingredients to cook their own healthy meals can often also not afford the time to prepare them either; due to working long hours, not being able to afford care for their children, etc. Food banks are very much on the rise in many parts of the UK[0] and we have millions of children in poverty[1], a significant and heart breaking statistic for such a country. [0] https://www.trusselltrust.org/news-and-blog/latest-stats/end-year-stats/#factsheets https://www.trusselltrust.org/news-and-blog/latest-stats/end... [1] https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/poverty-facts-and-figures https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/poverty-facts-and-figures
alias_neo 2y ago
I think everyone missed the sarcasm my comment was dripping with, British humour I guess. I'll take the downvotes. I understand the issues with sugar, I have no arguments with it, but it is, as you say, a blunt instrument. Sadly, the opposite case; healthy food, is also too expensive for the same demographic this affects; that's a separate and independent problem though, and the evidence in OP seems to suggest the tax is (somewhat) effective, so, again, no arguments from me. EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about in the UK when I talk about a demographic.