no self is still a self the diamond sutra's point aiui is that what we call a self isnt a self in that a true self does not exist independently (from the cause

no self is still a self the diamond sutra's point aiui is that what we call a self isnt a self in that a true self does not exist independently (from the causes, such as its essential nature, its foundation, and its environment) i might even say a self has an essential nature defined by an origin which is composed of relationships. you can find all examples in nature if you look a little.