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> "Defunding" the police was an extremist, fringe position that hijacked the situation. I think it sounded extremist and fringe, if you assumed it meant comple
by pavel_lishin 2y ago
> "Defunding" the police was an extremist, fringe position that hijacked the situation.
I think it sounded extremist and fringe, if you assumed it meant completely gutting their budget and placing police officers on a trebuchet aimed at the nearest shoreline.
But the actual "Defund the Police" proposal tried to shift some of that funding to non-armed responders, to better community services, and other things that have been proven to work better at improving outcomes and preventing crimes than a man with a gun showing up to deal with every conceivable scenario that someone found unpleasant.
- seoulmetro 2y agoThis is the "it was only a prank bro" excuse for the idea of "defund the police". No, defund the police means defund the police... not defund some subsection of policing to fund another new section of policing. "Defund the police" is as hilarious as it is backwards as a statement.
- pavel_lishin 2y agoYou're allowed to have your own mental idea of what a slogan represents, even if it doesn't match the varied and complicated reality of multiple people attempting to fix a wrong.
- seoulmetro 2y agoSure. And the slogan "Trix are for kids" means it's made specifically for adults.
- pavel_lishin 2y agoThat actually feels like a great example, because adults are, in fact, allowed to eat Trix.
- seoulmetro 2y agoI don't think you understand what slogans are for or what "something for X" means.
- baggy_trough 2y agoYes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police NYT, June 12, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abol...
- hashiyakshmi 2y agoDo you actually believe this NYT opinion article speaks for everybody on this topic or is that just convenient to the argument you're trying to make right now?
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- pavel_lishin 2y agoIt reminds me of CX debate in high school. It was a pretty formalized thing, and to "defeat" an argument the other team had, all you had to do was come up with some citation to refute it. Barely mattered what it was, it just had to be Good Enough for a judge (sometimes another high school kid who was grabbed out of the hall) to accept.