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> then the speed limit is set to 55MPH The speed limit is set to 55MPH because the road services vehicles that weigh 600lbs all the way up to 80,000lbs. "Safe

> then the speed limit is set to 55MPH The speed limit is set to 55MPH because the road services vehicles that weigh 600lbs all the way up to 80,000lbs. "Safe speed" is not a single universal number for a given stretch of road. The laws even acknowledge this, as if the weather is extremely unfavorable, you can be pulled over for driving _at_ the speed limit as it will be declared "unsafe speed under given conditions." This doesn't even approach things like construction zones, traffic accidents and other roadway hazards that can't be flagged in a way for the automated system to recognize correctly.

gwbas1c 2y ago
> because the road services vehicles that weigh 600lbs all the way up to 80,000lbs The laws recognize that those vehicles are different. Where I live those vehicles are only allowed to drive in the right two lanes. There's already a federal push to have speed limiters in vehicles like that and it is getting a lot of pushback: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fmcsa-delays-speed-limiter-rule-to-may-2025 https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fmcsa-delays-speed-limiter... Again, That's why I said it's important to have a frank discussion about the general public's tolerance for risk. Otherwise, whatever authority is pushing for speed limiters under the claim of "safety" is just unintentionally taking an authoritarian approach.
- akira2501 2y ago
  > Where I live those vehicles are only allowed to drive in the right two lanes. Motorcycles can't use the left lane? > There's already a federal push to have speed limiters in vehicles like that and it is getting a lot of pushback A 26,000lb vehicle, going down a 5% grade, with brake failure, goes whatever speed it pleases. > discussion about the general public's tolerance for risk The general public, famously, does not have the skill set needed to make correct measurements here. The discussion can only be on that is manipulated.
  - gwbas1c 2y ago
    > Motorcycles can't use the left lane? Trucks. It is very conspicuously posted 2-4 times a mile. See https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter89/Section4C#:~:text=On%20any%20highway%20with%20more,use%20any%20other%20lanes%20except https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Ch... (I live in MA) and https://www.findlaw.com/injury/car-accidents/no-trucks-in-the-left-lane-laws-by-state.html https://www.findlaw.com/injury/car-accidents/no-trucks-in-th... (To see how these laws change by state.) > A 26,000lb vehicle, going down a 5% grade, with brake failure, goes whatever speed it pleases. Don't get bogged down by corner cases. This is why there are runaway truck ramps when this is a risk. > The general public, famously, does not have the skill set needed to make correct measurements here That is how authoritarian leadership justifies itself. You clearly do not have the maturity to be part of this discussion if you have to resort to authoritarianism and "ends justify the means."

gwbas1c 2y ago

> because the road services vehicles that weigh 600lbs all the way up to 80,000lbs The laws recognize that those vehicles are different. Where I live those vehicles are only allowed to drive in the right two lanes. There's already a federal push to have speed limiters in vehicles like that and it is getting a lot of pushback: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fmcsa-delays-speed-limiter-rule-to-may-2025 https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fmcsa-delays-speed-limiter... Again, That's why I said it's important to have a frank discussion about the general public's tolerance for risk. Otherwise, whatever authority is pushing for speed limiters under the claim of "safety" is just unintentionally taking an authoritarian approach.

akira2501 2y ago
> Where I live those vehicles are only allowed to drive in the right two lanes. Motorcycles can't use the left lane? > There's already a federal push to have speed limiters in vehicles like that and it is getting a lot of pushback A 26,000lb vehicle, going down a 5% grade, with brake failure, goes whatever speed it pleases. > discussion about the general public's tolerance for risk The general public, famously, does not have the skill set needed to make correct measurements here. The discussion can only be on that is manipulated.
- gwbas1c 2y ago
  > Motorcycles can't use the left lane? Trucks. It is very conspicuously posted 2-4 times a mile. See https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter89/Section4C#:~:text=On%20any%20highway%20with%20more,use%20any%20other%20lanes%20except https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Ch... (I live in MA) and https://www.findlaw.com/injury/car-accidents/no-trucks-in-the-left-lane-laws-by-state.html https://www.findlaw.com/injury/car-accidents/no-trucks-in-th... (To see how these laws change by state.) > A 26,000lb vehicle, going down a 5% grade, with brake failure, goes whatever speed it pleases. Don't get bogged down by corner cases. This is why there are runaway truck ramps when this is a risk. > The general public, famously, does not have the skill set needed to make correct measurements here That is how authoritarian leadership justifies itself. You clearly do not have the maturity to be part of this discussion if you have to resort to authoritarianism and "ends justify the means."