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I don't have a problem with the logic, I'm just not sure why I should care. I imagine Edge probably can do magic stuff on microsoft sites that it can't on the r

I don't have a problem with the logic, I'm just not sure why I should care. I imagine Edge probably can do magic stuff on microsoft sites that it can't on the rest of the web too. It makes sense for the browser to have a higher level of trust for the company that makes it than it does for the wider web.

lupire 2y ago
There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new. I'm still no sure why I should care.
  - curtisblaine 2y ago
    > I'm still no sure why I should care. Because the Web is supposed to be based on open standards and browsers are supposed to be neutral platforms that implement the standards. If you don't care about that, fair: nobody really cares that you don't care. What everybody cares about is what happens if some of the various antitrust agencies of the world start caring.
shadowgovt 2y ago
Some people remember when the government went after Microsoft for having secret APIs that only IE could use. ... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore. This, but also, I still don't see anyone posting a compelling reason why I should care about this issue. The government and I don't necessarily have the same interests. Personally I don't care that google gives their own browser more access to my computer when I use google services, and if it improves my experience, I actually want that to be the case. The bulk of the complaints about this just seem to be tattletale behavior you see from children, not any thought out complaints based upon an actual harm.
  - curtisblaine 2y ago
    The actual harm is that other companies can't use that additional access. If they could they might be offering better products than Google to me and you. You might not care about better products, but I (and probably many people on this post) do.
    - Suppafly 2y ago
      Except allowing other companies to have that access results in a huge loss of security. I trust google enough to install their browser, they already do what they want with my computer, I don't really want to evaluate whether or not I trust every other random website to have that access or trust that they'll continue to be trustworthy at some random point in the future.

lupire 2y ago

There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new.

Suppafly 2y ago
>There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new. I'm still no sure why I should care.
- curtisblaine 2y ago
  > I'm still no sure why I should care. Because the Web is supposed to be based on open standards and browsers are supposed to be neutral platforms that implement the standards. If you don't care about that, fair: nobody really cares that you don't care. What everybody cares about is what happens if some of the various antitrust agencies of the world start caring.

shadowgovt 2y ago

Some people remember when the government went after Microsoft for having secret APIs that only IE could use. ... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore.

Suppafly 2y ago
>... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore. This, but also, I still don't see anyone posting a compelling reason why I should care about this issue. The government and I don't necessarily have the same interests. Personally I don't care that google gives their own browser more access to my computer when I use google services, and if it improves my experience, I actually want that to be the case. The bulk of the complaints about this just seem to be tattletale behavior you see from children, not any thought out complaints based upon an actual harm.
- curtisblaine 2y ago
  The actual harm is that other companies can't use that additional access. If they could they might be offering better products than Google to me and you. You might not care about better products, but I (and probably many people on this post) do.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    Except allowing other companies to have that access results in a huge loss of security. I trust google enough to install their browser, they already do what they want with my computer, I don't really want to evaluate whether or not I trust every other random website to have that access or trust that they'll continue to be trustworthy at some random point in the future.