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HN: Might you know of any country with even a half-decent policy to deal with these kinds of cases? (And what's that policy?) I could see putting it on the k
by bell-cot 2y ago
HN: Might you know of any country with even a half-decent policy to deal with these kinds of cases? (And what's that policy?)
I could see putting it on the kids' permanent record - both police & school - but that's probably of minimal deterrent value for a large fraction of young kidiots*. Not that catching the perp's is any sort of sure thing, either.
It'd be lovely if one could "re-train" youth culture, to greatly reduce the impact/thrill of the crime. I'd guess that that's the only payoff for 98% of perps. But in a world where (by many accounts) kids are often routinely browsing "extreme" porn years before many of their parents are comfortable with them being taught anything more adult than "when a man and a woman love each over very much..." - it's hard to imagine that the school or authorities could actually do that.
(Any thoughts?)
*Yes, like most old men, I was once a young idiot. No offenses remotely resembling this...but that was back in the days when a line-printer-on-green-bar-paper dirty image was still cutting-edge smut.
- basisword 2y agoI think cases like these do the trick. When I was in school cell phones had just become a thing. I know of two separate incidents which were referred to the police. It gave the kids involved a pretty serious scare and then the police gave a talk at the school and put the fear in everyone else. Kids are dumb but not dumb enough to commit serious crimes, once they actually understand it's a crime that would be taken seriously.
- namaria 2y agoDefrauding people online is hugely popular amongst minors in the Netherlands...
- isaacfrond 2y agohugely popular? <citation wanted>
- namaria 2y agohttps://nos.nl/artikel/2456409-dit-zijn-de-jongeren-achter-online-oplichting-het-is-een-soort-hype https://nos.nl/artikel/2456409-dit-zijn-de-jongeren-achter-o... https://nos.nl/artikel/2456322-jongeren-vaker-betrokken-bij-fraude-en-cybercrime-politie-maakt-zich-zorgen https://nos.nl/artikel/2456322-jongeren-vaker-betrokken-bij-... https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/daders-van-online-oplichting-moeten-slachtoffer-in-de-ogen-zien~bd9afd86/ https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/daders-van-online-oplichting-moe... https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2022/april/4/05-trendbeeld-2022-gepubliceerd-eenheid-amsterdam.html https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2022/april/4/05-trendbeeld-202...
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- fngjdflmdflg 2y agoYour post implies that kids are more susceptible to making these kinds of images than adults. Is this a valid assumption? One may argue that adults are just less likely to share the images in a group chat and get caught.
- wetpaws 2y ago[dead]
- pvaldes 2y agoKids are more naive, are learning monkeys, so they will test the limits and commit mistakes. Is part of being a kid. But giving your kid a magic device so criminals from each coin of the planet have a door that leads directly to your children, is not part of being a parent.
- bell-cot 2y ago> Is that a valid... I've no idea - but I figure that adult perps should be treated quite differently from young teens.
- akira2501 2y ago> It'd be lovely if one could "re-train" youth culture, to greatly reduce the impact/thrill of the crime. That just makes me think of "A Clockwork Orange." > kids are often routinely browsing "extreme" porn How do we determine this?
- namaria 2y agoThere is no 'permanent record'. Most sane jurisdictions scrub minors' records on reaching adulthood.