all true - but my unfair comparison was between the typical java enterprise dead horse, and a typical startup stack. I did not compare Java best practice for o

all true - but my unfair comparison was between the typical java enterprise dead horse, and a typical startup stack. I did not compare Java best practice for one reason: The enterprise bloat is how Java is perceived. Its not about why Java is not suited for startups, but why Java is not choosen by startups.