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The first bit is a well known factoid that gets quoted out of context. Here's an article discussing it: https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-net-zero-will-be

The first bit is a well known factoid that gets quoted out of context. Here's an article discussing it: https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-net-zero-will-be-harder-than-you-think-and-easier-part-ii-easier/ https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-net-zero-will-be-harde... > It is a truth universally acknowledged that only 5% of lithium-ion batteries are recycled, with the rest going to landfill. This claim is, however, false. It has been traced back to a report written in 2011 by Friends of the Earth, which divided volumes of collection by volumes of manufacturing at the time.

martythemaniak 2y ago
Example #4,928,422,857 of people's inability to think about rapidly changing quantities.
notfbi 2y ago
Love the chain of sources: Business Insider article is about this paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 which for that factoid links to https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c02602 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c02602 which for that just links to a BBC article with a doctor saying the "value everyone quotes is about" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779
smileysteve 2y ago
The 2011 part is what makes this outstanding, the iphone had been released only 4 years before; the majority of lithium ion we were using was likely laptop batteries and cell phones that lasted a week on a small battery. If anything, i would expect that recycling would become more commonplace with the larger scale of EV batteries, Electric bicycle batteries, and power stations. And the key part is, the advantage of lithium ion is that the same sized battery provies 10x as many charges (and more energy density) than its predecessors NIMH or NICD)

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The first bit is a well known factoid that gets quoted out of context. Here's an article discussing it: https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-net-zero-will-be

by ZeroGravitas 2y ago

martythemaniak 2y ago
Example #4,928,422,857 of people's inability to think about rapidly changing quantities.
notfbi 2y ago
Love the chain of sources: Business Insider article is about this paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 which for that factoid links to https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c02602 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c02602 which for that just links to a BBC article with a doctor saying the "value everyone quotes is about" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779
smileysteve 2y ago
The 2011 part is what makes this outstanding, the iphone had been released only 4 years before; the majority of lithium ion we were using was likely laptop batteries and cell phones that lasted a week on a small battery. If anything, i would expect that recycling would become more commonplace with the larger scale of EV batteries, Electric bicycle batteries, and power stations. And the key part is, the advantage of lithium ion is that the same sized battery provies 10x as many charges (and more energy density) than its predecessors NIMH or NICD)