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As the article explains any Wise (a fintech popular for travel debit cards and cheap intl money transfers) that had USD balance was exposed with the breach.

seanhunter 2y ago
…and Wise is the company that used to be known as “TransferWise”.[1] So it’s possible there are a few people who had an old transferwise account lurking around somewhere that now have had their deets stolen and haven’t even realised yet. [1] https://www.pymnts.com/news/cross-border-commerce/cross-border-payments/2021/transferwise-rebrands-to-wise/ https://www.pymnts.com/news/cross-border-commerce/cross-bord...
scrollaway 2y ago
That doesn’t seem right to me. Wise moved away from EBT a year or so ago. They may not be done moving away from them but my Wise USD balance is not with EBT anymore and they confirmed by email I was not affected by the breach.
- gen3 2y ago
  How did you get them to confirm for you? The best I got was “Right now, we know it is possible some of your personal information may have been breached. We do not have further details to share, but we encourage you to stay vigilant in monitoring your financial activity. Please be advised that Wise remains secure, as is your account. This breach did not impact our systems. However, keep an eye on any suspicious activity and make sure to report it.”
  - scrollaway 2y ago
    Here is the email I received on June 28: There’s been a data breach at Evolve Bank & Trust. Evolve Bank & Trust is a regulated bank that we worked with from 2020 until 2023 to provide your old USD account details. They’ve recently been affected by a data breach and some of your personal information may have been involved. This personal information does not include copies of any of the identification documents you’ve shared with us — these have not been shared with Evolve Bank & Trust at any point. Your Wise account is safe We no longer work with Evolve Bank & Trust, and have already strengthened our security measures. We’ve also started a thorough investigation into this data breach and can confirm that it has not impacted our systems. This means: • your Wise account credentials, including your password, are safe, and you can use your account as normal • you can continue to use your USD account details — these are no longer connected to Evolve Bank & Trust • you can continue to use any Wise cards you may have as they were not impacted by this issue – your card number and PIN are safe
    - gen3 2y ago
      I received the same thing. What they don’t say is if your routing/account number used in transfers to/from your Wise account has been leaked. Same for any KYC info that the bank might need, such as name or SSN.
      - scrollaway 2y ago
        The EBT routing and account numbers are no longer valid since they migrated so even if they leaked that is irrelevant. But you’re right about personal data, I suspect names leaked.
        gen3 2y ago
        I transferred funds between wise and my savings account. I assume my routing/account to my savings has been leaked
        trollbridge 2y ago
        And Evolve has allegedly been sending cease-and-desists to journalists who wanted to look at the leaked data: https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/02/evolve-bank-sent-a-cease-and-desist-letter-to-a-newsletter-writer-covering-its-data-breach/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/02/evolve-bank-sent-a-cease-a... Journalists are the only ones at this point giving us any transparency into the whole situation.
    - abridgett 2y ago
      I've asked them: a) _what_ details may have been involved. Currently the criminals know more than we do. b) why EBT had any data if Wise stopped working with then in 2023. I'd except there to be a fairly strong obligation (probably on both parties) under GDPR to ensure that EBT destroyed that data. I'll be following up
sixhobbits 2y ago
Yeah I think Wise new about this long before it became public. We had our USD receiving account details shut down with like 2 weeks notice which caused massive cashflow problems as we had to get all customers to redo payments. And I know some people had it at like 1-2 days notice. I blamed wise at the time but I guess their hands were tied if they knew about this but weren't allowed to talk about it.

seanhunter 2y ago

…and Wise is the company that used to be known as “TransferWise”.[1] So it’s possible there are a few people who had an old transferwise account lurking around somewhere that now have had their deets stolen and haven’t even realised yet. [1] https://www.pymnts.com/news/cross-border-commerce/cross-border-payments/2021/transferwise-rebrands-to-wise/ https://www.pymnts.com/news/cross-border-commerce/cross-bord...

scrollaway 2y ago

That doesn’t seem right to me. Wise moved away from EBT a year or so ago. They may not be done moving away from them but my Wise USD balance is not with EBT anymore and they confirmed by email I was not affected by the breach.

gen3 2y ago
How did you get them to confirm for you? The best I got was “Right now, we know it is possible some of your personal information may have been breached. We do not have further details to share, but we encourage you to stay vigilant in monitoring your financial activity. Please be advised that Wise remains secure, as is your account. This breach did not impact our systems. However, keep an eye on any suspicious activity and make sure to report it.”
- scrollaway 2y ago
  Here is the email I received on June 28: There’s been a data breach at Evolve Bank & Trust. Evolve Bank & Trust is a regulated bank that we worked with from 2020 until 2023 to provide your old USD account details. They’ve recently been affected by a data breach and some of your personal information may have been involved. This personal information does not include copies of any of the identification documents you’ve shared with us — these have not been shared with Evolve Bank & Trust at any point. Your Wise account is safe We no longer work with Evolve Bank & Trust, and have already strengthened our security measures. We’ve also started a thorough investigation into this data breach and can confirm that it has not impacted our systems. This means: • your Wise account credentials, including your password, are safe, and you can use your account as normal • you can continue to use your USD account details — these are no longer connected to Evolve Bank & Trust • you can continue to use any Wise cards you may have as they were not impacted by this issue – your card number and PIN are safe
  - gen3 2y ago
    I received the same thing. What they don’t say is if your routing/account number used in transfers to/from your Wise account has been leaked. Same for any KYC info that the bank might need, such as name or SSN.
    - scrollaway 2y ago
      The EBT routing and account numbers are no longer valid since they migrated so even if they leaked that is irrelevant. But you’re right about personal data, I suspect names leaked.
      - gen3 2y ago
        I transferred funds between wise and my savings account. I assume my routing/account to my savings has been leaked
      - trollbridge 2y ago
        And Evolve has allegedly been sending cease-and-desists to journalists who wanted to look at the leaked data: https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/02/evolve-bank-sent-a-cease-and-desist-letter-to-a-newsletter-writer-covering-its-data-breach/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/02/evolve-bank-sent-a-cease-a... Journalists are the only ones at this point giving us any transparency into the whole situation.
  - abridgett 2y ago
    I've asked them: a) _what_ details may have been involved. Currently the criminals know more than we do. b) why EBT had any data if Wise stopped working with then in 2023. I'd except there to be a fairly strong obligation (probably on both parties) under GDPR to ensure that EBT destroyed that data. I'll be following up

sixhobbits 2y ago

Yeah I think Wise new about this long before it became public. We had our USD receiving account details shut down with like 2 weeks notice which caused massive cashflow problems as we had to get all customers to redo payments. And I know some people had it at like 1-2 days notice. I blamed wise at the time but I guess their hands were tied if they knew about this but weren't allowed to talk about it.