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Interesting to see how close the author got to producing an abstract "TCP-over-shared-editable-fields", which in itself would make a really cool tool. Imagine

Interesting to see how close the author got to producing an abstract "TCP-over-shared-editable-fields", which in itself would make a really cool tool. Imagine a proxy where all you did was design at a high-level a way to write/read to a shared resource from two sides, and then it handled all the rest for you as a SOCKS proxy.

dheera 2y ago
I think TCP/IP-over-DNS has been done for getting free internet over paid Boingo hotspots in airports. Eventually free Wi-Fi became the standard and this is not a thing anymore. We have just progressed to fighting the in-flight free Wi-Fi battle now. Eventually in-flight Wi-Fi will be free everywhere. It already is on several airlines.
- michaelmior 2y ago
  Indeed it has with iodine[0] being a popular example. [0] https://github.com/yarrick/iodine https://github.com/yarrick/iodine
TremendousJudge 2y ago
I have thought about this for years, ever since ISPs in my country started advertising "unlimited whatsapp" on otherwise data limited plans. It would only work for text and not images or video, but it would have been good enough for general web browsing.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  Why could you not just proxy the images and videos as uploads to WhatsApp? They would be re-encoded possibly, but better than nothing...
  - TremendousJudge 2y ago
    I meant that the ISP would block wpp image and video traffic, but would allow text through. It has been several years since this happened, so I may be misremembering.
    - moritonal 2y ago
      I belive you're misunderstanding what TCP-over-X means. If you can exchange messages, it means you could exchange bytes, if you can do that you can send any form of data, including HTTPS which is an application over TCP. HTTPS could then include video and images, encrypted and therefore difficult to specifically block.
      - TremendousJudge 2y ago
        GP was asking specifically about sending images and video as wpp images and video (which is why he mentioned them being re-encoded). I suspect that sending that amount of data as wpp text messages would run you into some sort of trouble, but maybe not! Somebody above posted an implementation of this idea, and they mention that using it could get you banned which is unsurprising imo
- bitdivision 2y ago
  There is https://github.com/aleixrodriala/wa-tunnel https://github.com/aleixrodriala/wa-tunnel to tunnel over whatsapp
  - TremendousJudge 2y ago
    Thanks! I knew the idea was so obvious somebody else had already gone through with it

dheera 2y ago

I think TCP/IP-over-DNS has been done for getting free internet over paid Boingo hotspots in airports. Eventually free Wi-Fi became the standard and this is not a thing anymore. We have just progressed to fighting the in-flight free Wi-Fi battle now. Eventually in-flight Wi-Fi will be free everywhere. It already is on several airlines.

michaelmior 2y ago
Indeed it has with iodine[0] being a popular example. [0] https://github.com/yarrick/iodine https://github.com/yarrick/iodine

TremendousJudge 2y ago

I have thought about this for years, ever since ISPs in my country started advertising "unlimited whatsapp" on otherwise data limited plans. It would only work for text and not images or video, but it would have been good enough for general web browsing.

qingcharles 2y ago
Why could you not just proxy the images and videos as uploads to WhatsApp? They would be re-encoded possibly, but better than nothing...
- TremendousJudge 2y ago
  I meant that the ISP would block wpp image and video traffic, but would allow text through. It has been several years since this happened, so I may be misremembering.
  - moritonal 2y ago
    I belive you're misunderstanding what TCP-over-X means. If you can exchange messages, it means you could exchange bytes, if you can do that you can send any form of data, including HTTPS which is an application over TCP. HTTPS could then include video and images, encrypted and therefore difficult to specifically block.
    - TremendousJudge 2y ago
      GP was asking specifically about sending images and video as wpp images and video (which is why he mentioned them being re-encoded). I suspect that sending that amount of data as wpp text messages would run you into some sort of trouble, but maybe not! Somebody above posted an implementation of this idea, and they mention that using it could get you banned which is unsurprising imo
bitdivision 2y ago
There is https://github.com/aleixrodriala/wa-tunnel https://github.com/aleixrodriala/wa-tunnel to tunnel over whatsapp
- TremendousJudge 2y ago
  Thanks! I knew the idea was so obvious somebody else had already gone through with it