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The greatest thing about Intel/AMD chips is they just work always. I’ve got zero tolerance for crashes and weird behavior and edge cases and whenever I tried A

The greatest thing about Intel/AMD chips is they just work always. I’ve got zero tolerance for crashes and weird behavior and edge cases and whenever I tried ARM servers that’s exactly what I got. Computing is unreliable enough without throwing arm into the windows world… it’ll be painful for sure. I can’t see any benefit in arm so compelling that I’d want it over the standard cpu architecture. Compatibility is everything. It was different for Apple because they control the entire ecosystem and frankly their software engineering on cross compatibility was startlingly good. Microsoft doesn’t have that level of control plus it’s got windows cruft plus drivers and third party hardware and software and it’s hard to imagine a seamless experience. Why would I buy that…. what’s the benefit?

_joel 2y ago
That's not my experience, we've moved many cloud workloads over to ARM and haven't suffered stability issues. Maybe you mean the Windows implementation on ARM, if you're using that, but that's not the chip's fault.
- andrewstuart 2y ago
  To be clear I’m not saying arm is unstable I’m saying I can’t imagine the windows ecosystem being reliably compatible. There will be problems, there absolutely has to be.
  - _joel 2y ago
    Of course, Apple's gone through major chip transitions a number of times and there were issues. Those issues get fixed (on the whole) over time, so just don't be an early adopter if you don't want that pain. I think at this point Windows has already been running on ARM long enough to justify the title of this post.
mmaniac 2y ago
The fact is that hardware, operating systems, CPU architectures - all these things are boring. We use computers as tools for doing the interesting tasks. Users only start to care about these things when they start to get in their way. If a new ARM PC fails to run some legacy app that's critical to the workflow, then they'll discover that it's because their shiny new laptop has some weird new technology inside it. And then they'll hate it because the computer is no longer fit for purpose. On the other hand, if everything works, then they'll carry on with their lives as if nothing happened.

_joel 2y ago

That's not my experience, we've moved many cloud workloads over to ARM and haven't suffered stability issues. Maybe you mean the Windows implementation on ARM, if you're using that, but that's not the chip's fault.

andrewstuart 2y ago
To be clear I’m not saying arm is unstable I’m saying I can’t imagine the windows ecosystem being reliably compatible. There will be problems, there absolutely has to be.
- _joel 2y ago
  Of course, Apple's gone through major chip transitions a number of times and there were issues. Those issues get fixed (on the whole) over time, so just don't be an early adopter if you don't want that pain. I think at this point Windows has already been running on ARM long enough to justify the title of this post.

mmaniac 2y ago

The fact is that hardware, operating systems, CPU architectures - all these things are boring. We use computers as tools for doing the interesting tasks. Users only start to care about these things when they start to get in their way. If a new ARM PC fails to run some legacy app that's critical to the workflow, then they'll discover that it's because their shiny new laptop has some weird new technology inside it. And then they'll hate it because the computer is no longer fit for purpose. On the other hand, if everything works, then they'll carry on with their lives as if nothing happened.