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If there’s a silver lining in all events that is happening with Boeing, definitely will be the adjacent fixes and data collected around potential problems and o

by braza 2y ago

If there’s a silver lining in all events that is happening with Boeing, definitely will be the adjacent fixes and data collected around potential problems and of course the time given to solve those issues. I do not have and insight on how that industry work, but I imagine several stealth patching, design philosophies receiving on field data, and a lot of learning due to those incidents.

lolinder 2y ago
This is totally normal procedure and has been for years. The only difference is now it makes the news because "Boeing" gets clicks. > I do not have and insight on how that industry work, but This is why I think these articles shouldn't be submitted. People who know how these things work don't click because they know it's just the media sensationalizing the routine, but they're a magnet for uninformed speculation.
- braza 2y ago
  > but they're a magnet for uninformed speculation That’s why I carefully placed my lack of inside knowledge and the word “imagine” before I made my statement. From the outside seems that the aviation industry has a lot of care for security and opportunistic continuous enhancement as a high stakes/high consequence industry in comparison with SWE that most of the time does not have the same philosophy. > This is why I think these articles shouldn't be submitted. People who know how these things work don't click because they know it's just the media sensationalizing the routine That’s why here in HN those stories should be posted; not only for the wide range of people in terms of skills that we have here but it contributes with an informed debate and/or ideas exchange.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    >contributes with an informed debate and/or ideas exchange. Past the initial couple submissions when this all came to light, everything since has been classic internet brigading and social hysteria wrought by the media looking for particularly easy clickbait. Sincerely, these articles are just spam and it is a disservice to society to enable the media spewing them out.
constantcrying 2y ago
>I do not have and insight on how that industry work The industry works by doing safety right before the plane first flies.
- bilbo0s 2y ago
  That’s the idea in the industry. But that’s not how Boeing’s been running for a long time. Not really sure they will ever get it back. What we’re seeing right now from the FAA, is calibrated safety theatre in an attempt to ameliorate Boeing’s reputation. Likely because a decision has already been made to save Boeing from its engineering and business practices regardless of our ability as a nation to affect internal change in that corporation. I think we can try to force management changes, but even when we do, there’s a tendency to promote from rising stars within. With all the obvious consequences. So it’s a hard problem.

by braza 2y ago

lolinder 2y ago

This is totally normal procedure and has been for years. The only difference is now it makes the news because "Boeing" gets clicks. > I do not have and insight on how that industry work, but This is why I think these articles shouldn't be submitted. People who know how these things work don't click because they know it's just the media sensationalizing the routine, but they're a magnet for uninformed speculation.

braza 2y ago
> but they're a magnet for uninformed speculation That’s why I carefully placed my lack of inside knowledge and the word “imagine” before I made my statement. From the outside seems that the aviation industry has a lot of care for security and opportunistic continuous enhancement as a high stakes/high consequence industry in comparison with SWE that most of the time does not have the same philosophy. > This is why I think these articles shouldn't be submitted. People who know how these things work don't click because they know it's just the media sensationalizing the routine That’s why here in HN those stories should be posted; not only for the wide range of people in terms of skills that we have here but it contributes with an informed debate and/or ideas exchange.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  >contributes with an informed debate and/or ideas exchange. Past the initial couple submissions when this all came to light, everything since has been classic internet brigading and social hysteria wrought by the media looking for particularly easy clickbait. Sincerely, these articles are just spam and it is a disservice to society to enable the media spewing them out.

constantcrying 2y ago

>I do not have and insight on how that industry work The industry works by doing safety right before the plane first flies.

bilbo0s 2y ago
That’s the idea in the industry. But that’s not how Boeing’s been running for a long time. Not really sure they will ever get it back. What we’re seeing right now from the FAA, is calibrated safety theatre in an attempt to ameliorate Boeing’s reputation. Likely because a decision has already been made to save Boeing from its engineering and business practices regardless of our ability as a nation to affect internal change in that corporation. I think we can try to force management changes, but even when we do, there’s a tendency to promote from rising stars within. With all the obvious consequences. So it’s a hard problem.