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Bart and Caltrain are reasonably priced when you compare them to LIRR or Metro-North. All 4 are long distance commuter rails, not local public transit. Edit: W

Bart and Caltrain are reasonably priced when you compare them to LIRR or Metro-North. All 4 are long distance commuter rails, not local public transit. Edit: White Plains to Grand Central costs $13 on peak while Mountain View to 4th and King is $8. Both are about the same driving distance

ProfessorLayton 2y ago
4th & King is not comparable to Grand Central, which is a prime location. One needs to add the additional cost and time needed to take muni to where most of the offices are actually located. They're working on extending Caltrain into SF's transit center, but that's currently a ways off.
- Animats 2y ago
  And it's becoming unnecessary. The center of SF business activity is moving towards 4th and King, and away from the old financial district.
  - ProfessorLayton 2y ago
    Citation needed, and even so it wouldn't compare to directly commuting to Grand Central which is incredibly well connected to the rest of Manhattan.
    - Animats 2y ago
      Look up decline of San Francisco financial district in Google. There are many articles. [1] https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/map-downtown-san-francisco-buildings-18121855.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/map-downtown-san-fran...
darth_avocado 2y ago
While it may be true for Caltrain, Bart cannot be compared to Metro North. A commuter pass that I have used in the past from Long Beach to Grand Central (~30mi) was about $200/month ($250 now). A similar driving distance commute from concord to Powell St (~30mi) would cost you about $290 for 20 visits to the city since Bart doesn’t do commuter passes. Bart also charges you per trip and the min distance rides are very expensive, making it overall a more expensive option to Metro North. And unfortunately it’s the only commute option from the East Bay apart from the AC transit busses commuter busses that charge $7 regardless of the distance.

ProfessorLayton 2y ago

4th & King is not comparable to Grand Central, which is a prime location. One needs to add the additional cost and time needed to take muni to where most of the offices are actually located. They're working on extending Caltrain into SF's transit center, but that's currently a ways off.

Animats 2y ago
And it's becoming unnecessary. The center of SF business activity is moving towards 4th and King, and away from the old financial district.
- ProfessorLayton 2y ago
  Citation needed, and even so it wouldn't compare to directly commuting to Grand Central which is incredibly well connected to the rest of Manhattan.
  - Animats 2y ago
    Look up decline of San Francisco financial district in Google. There are many articles. [1] https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/map-downtown-san-francisco-buildings-18121855.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/map-downtown-san-fran...

darth_avocado 2y ago

While it may be true for Caltrain, Bart cannot be compared to Metro North. A commuter pass that I have used in the past from Long Beach to Grand Central (~30mi) was about $200/month ($250 now). A similar driving distance commute from concord to Powell St (~30mi) would cost you about $290 for 20 visits to the city since Bart doesn’t do commuter passes. Bart also charges you per trip and the min distance rides are very expensive, making it overall a more expensive option to Metro North. And unfortunately it’s the only commute option from the East Bay apart from the AC transit busses commuter busses that charge $7 regardless of the distance.