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I'm in a subculture where people mostly don't own televisions (I do watch shows on my laptop, occasionally) but so I have never seen motion smoothing - is there
by jes5199 2y ago
I'm in a subculture where people mostly don't own televisions (I do watch shows on my laptop, occasionally) but so I have never seen motion smoothing - is there a demo, online, like on youtube or something, that can give me a sense of what you are talking about?
- cm2012 2y agoIt looks like a 90s/2000s soap opera, like Days of our Lives. I always turn it off on TVs I use.
- ghewgill 2y agoI still don't understand what that means. I've never sat down to watch a soap opera, so I have no idea what they look like.
- jes5199 2y agoI've heard that before and it just sounds so strange - why would interpolated frames on a HDTV remind people of the production values from standard definition televisions?
- recursive 2y agoIt's the frame rate. People are accustomed to seeing video at ~30fps. But old soap operas were somehow at ~60fps, among other things. I think this motion interpolation thing looks significantly worse than the old soap operas, because the interpolated frames break down when there's too much movement, which is exactly when they could have the most value, if you believed they had any value proposition at all.
- axus 2y agoI've seen those soap operas and it's true. I'm having trouble finding an online source that really shows what it looked like. The number of people who've never had to watch an old soap opera is increasing.
- callerun 2y agoWhich subculture is this? I also do not own a tv. But I’m not part of any subculture that I know of.
- jes5199 2y agofor lack of a better way to describe it, people who were active on everything.blockstackers.com in the late 1990s
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- katerberg 2y agoHard to see in this clip, but it's super annoying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkSjTgrVa3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkSjTgrVa3w
- isleyaardvark 2y agoThis video isn’t really worth watching in entirety, but it’s one clip with motion smoothing on and off, so you can skip around to get the idea: https://youtu.be/INQrxHREmJ0?si=E5v3L-gZ__BrUHyC https://youtu.be/INQrxHREmJ0?si=E5v3L-gZ__BrUHyC This video has a longer explanation: https://youtu.be/62noXbp-l9o?si=aZqIre3sJy2SpOo7 https://youtu.be/62noXbp-l9o?si=aZqIre3sJy2SpOo7
- monort 2y agoSo I see a lot of stuttering during panning in that video. With motion smoothing on, almost no stuttering. How can anyone prefer the stuttering version? https://youtu.be/INQrxHREmJ0?t=211 https://youtu.be/INQrxHREmJ0?t=211
- ssl-3 2y agoSome of us strongly prefer things to be presented as they are, without artificial enhancements. This means that if a movie is shot at 24FPS (as nearly all of them are), and is shown to theater audiences at 24FPS, then it should also be displayed at 24FPS in the living room. (But if you prefer to view the world through rose-tinted glasses, then you do you.)
- monort 2y agoI understand that, but everyone here is saying that the stuttering version is better in itself and the smooth version is horrible? To my eyes it's the opposite.
- ssl-3 2y agoTo me, the "smooth" version is artificial and alien in ways I can't quite articulate, just as it is hard to articulate why a long-winded LLM response, while having good grammar, might be both stupid and wrong. Sure, it's smoother; anyone can see that. It's also weirdly smeary or something. The (presumably) 24FPS version has a regular amount of judder, and it's the same amount of judder that I've experienced when watching films for my entire life, and each of those frames is a distinct photograph. There is zero smearing betwixt them, and there is no smearing possible.
- snvzz 2y agompv can do it, look into manpage, I do not immediately remember the param. I have tried it, and it is horrible.