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Or if you buy a legit version, some of the money will actually go to the people responsible for producing the work. This will allow them to eat and produce more

Or if you buy a legit version, some of the money will actually go to the people responsible for producing the work. This will allow them to eat and produce more art. Sending money to the pirates, though, will only produce more piracy.

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
> some of the money will actually go to the people responsible for producing the work. As a gatekeeping entity that barricades taxpayer-funded docs behind paywalls (from the taxpayers who funded their creation), the thing Elsevier produces is unethical rent-seeking behavior. > Sending money to the pirates, though, will only produce more piracy. Until meaningfully ethical alternatives emerge, folks work with what they got.
observationist 2y ago
Or you can identify the actual creator/s, send them all the money, and let the money grubbing middlemen wither on the vine. Run the numbers on how much money you've given the publishing industry and the entertainment industries in your lifetime. I did this; I'm not giving them a red cent more. A surprising number of authors and artists have bitcoin, nearly all have some web presence and means of donating. Be generous pirates.
DEADMINCE 2y ago
Actually, pirates consistently spend the most on content. Go figure.
- trogdor 2y ago
  I have seen this claim many times, but I have never seen anyone produce evidence to back it up. Why do you believe that what you wrote is true?
  - DEADMINCE 2y ago
    > Why do you believe that what you wrote is true? Because I've seen this claim many times over more than a decade, and have seen evidence multiple times. I've also been able to search for it when I was curious and find it without issue. Here's the first search result, a Vice article from 2018: https://www.vice.com/en/article/evkmz7/study-again-shows-pirates-tend-to-be-the-biggest-buyers-of-legal-content https://www.vice.com/en/article/evkmz7/study-again-shows-pir...

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago

> some of the money will actually go to the people responsible for producing the work. As a gatekeeping entity that barricades taxpayer-funded docs behind paywalls (from the taxpayers who funded their creation), the thing Elsevier produces is unethical rent-seeking behavior. > Sending money to the pirates, though, will only produce more piracy. Until meaningfully ethical alternatives emerge, folks work with what they got.

observationist 2y ago

Or you can identify the actual creator/s, send them all the money, and let the money grubbing middlemen wither on the vine. Run the numbers on how much money you've given the publishing industry and the entertainment industries in your lifetime. I did this; I'm not giving them a red cent more. A surprising number of authors and artists have bitcoin, nearly all have some web presence and means of donating. Be generous pirates.

DEADMINCE 2y ago

Actually, pirates consistently spend the most on content. Go figure.

trogdor 2y ago
I have seen this claim many times, but I have never seen anyone produce evidence to back it up. Why do you believe that what you wrote is true?
- DEADMINCE 2y ago
  > Why do you believe that what you wrote is true? Because I've seen this claim many times over more than a decade, and have seen evidence multiple times. I've also been able to search for it when I was curious and find it without issue. Here's the first search result, a Vice article from 2018: https://www.vice.com/en/article/evkmz7/study-again-shows-pirates-tend-to-be-the-biggest-buyers-of-legal-content https://www.vice.com/en/article/evkmz7/study-again-shows-pir...