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What a ridiculous claim. They call computer hardware and salaries damage. I want a competent judge to make sure that these are not damages and I wish that Anna

What a ridiculous claim. They call computer hardware and salaries damage. I want a competent judge to make sure that these are not damages and I wish that Anna’s Archive continues to operate in sensible jurisdiction for the foreseeable future. If I had the means I would donate to them.

teractiveodular 2y ago
https://annas-archive.gs/donate https://annas-archive.gs/donate
- dylan604 2y ago
  Having the means normally means the extra finances to give away vs knowing the link to their donation form
  - autoexec 2y ago
    Still kind of nice to have that link thrown out here for those with the means to support their work.
  - shkkmo 2y ago
    It an easily misunderstood idiom since the difference between the two meanings is just the definite vs indefinite article: 'the means' vs 'a means'.
tehwebguy 2y ago
Article says nobody is responding as defendant except one individual who has filed a motion to dismiss based on being misidentified. I don’t know the status of that motion though.
- xiiiixi 2y ago
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  - bugglebeetle 2y ago
    >Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability. Sounds par for the course with all the kookery and bullshit that somehow passes for “expert” evidence in US courts.
    - RVuRnvbM2e 2y ago
      Yeah they'll have him take a polygraph next.
  - yellowapple 2y ago
    I'd be very curious about that analysis should it be publicized. Specifically: how many other people does that stylometric analysis match "with a high degree of probability"? And what measures were taken to rule out things like adversarial stylometry? My point: stylometry alone doesn't strike me as particularly strong evidence - especially in this day and age wherein people influence each others' writing styles bidirectionally all the time.
  - iczero 2y ago
    >"high degree of probability" what degree? what's the false positive rate? what's the false negative rate? what's the true negative rate? what other evidence have you got? even better, why are you talking about this at all? isn't it best practice to shut up about legal cases?
  - computerfriend 2y ago
    Regardless, that is what the motion to dismiss is based on.
  - justinclift 2y ago
    > Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability. Sounds like this is a new technique unproven to the high standards really needed for legal evidence. The "anything plausible sounding goes" approach is already a problem for other widely used types of "evidence". Those need to be stamped out too, not have new unproven crap added, making the problem worse.
otterley 2y ago
They mean "damages" in a legal sense, not in a "broken" sense. Damages in tort law are the amount intended to make the claimant whole -- that is, to reimburse expenses incurred to protect legal rights, compensate for lost revenue, or to restore the status quo ante.
- account42 2y ago
  A store can't claim the security guard's salary as damages caused by theft.

teractiveodular 2y ago

https://annas-archive.gs/donate https://annas-archive.gs/donate

dylan604 2y ago
Having the means normally means the extra finances to give away vs knowing the link to their donation form
- autoexec 2y ago
  Still kind of nice to have that link thrown out here for those with the means to support their work.
- shkkmo 2y ago
  It an easily misunderstood idiom since the difference between the two meanings is just the definite vs indefinite article: 'the means' vs 'a means'.

tehwebguy 2y ago

Article says nobody is responding as defendant except one individual who has filed a motion to dismiss based on being misidentified. I don’t know the status of that motion though.

xiiiixi 2y ago
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- bugglebeetle 2y ago
  >Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability. Sounds par for the course with all the kookery and bullshit that somehow passes for “expert” evidence in US courts.
  - RVuRnvbM2e 2y ago
    Yeah they'll have him take a polygraph next.
- yellowapple 2y ago
  I'd be very curious about that analysis should it be publicized. Specifically: how many other people does that stylometric analysis match "with a high degree of probability"? And what measures were taken to rule out things like adversarial stylometry? My point: stylometry alone doesn't strike me as particularly strong evidence - especially in this day and age wherein people influence each others' writing styles bidirectionally all the time.
- iczero 2y ago
  >"high degree of probability" what degree? what's the false positive rate? what's the false negative rate? what's the true negative rate? what other evidence have you got? even better, why are you talking about this at all? isn't it best practice to shut up about legal cases?
- computerfriend 2y ago
  Regardless, that is what the motion to dismiss is based on.
- justinclift 2y ago
  > Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability. Sounds like this is a new technique unproven to the high standards really needed for legal evidence. The "anything plausible sounding goes" approach is already a problem for other widely used types of "evidence". Those need to be stamped out too, not have new unproven crap added, making the problem worse.

otterley 2y ago

They mean "damages" in a legal sense, not in a "broken" sense. Damages in tort law are the amount intended to make the claimant whole -- that is, to reimburse expenses incurred to protect legal rights, compensate for lost revenue, or to restore the status quo ante.

account42 2y ago
A store can't claim the security guard's salary as damages caused by theft.