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> Doesn't Windows, the most popular OS out there, ... The most popular desktop OS. It is nowhere to be found in the Top 500 supercomputers, is nowhere to be fo

> Doesn't Windows, the most popular OS out there, ... The most popular desktop OS. It is nowhere to be found in the Top 500 supercomputers, is nowhere to be found on smartphones, lags in the Cloud, is nowhere to be found in the billions of appliances, etc. > Why isn't that harming Windows? It is harming Windows. That horrible cmd.exe is one of the reason Windows lost in all the other markets and has hardly any market share there.

ddingus 2y ago
Seriously. Back in the 90's a lot of movie production was being done on the SGI IRIX computers. Jurassic Park themed ones even. Really spiffy machines with both an excellent GUI and terminal. Cheap WIN NT boxes with nVidia GPUs on them, were seen as the beat path forward. SGI gear is also Jurassic Park style, "Spare no expense" and was not cheap! Super expensive machines, but people got what they paid for too. Alias, Maya were ported to Windows and off to the races right? Nope. Unix scripting, that awesome terminal and friends made all the difference in the world. This was true even for smaller or single person shops who would do the work in a now slower SGI because the user experience was bang on point and that meant getting the desired outcome first time no bullshit. The minute we had nVidia drivers, Linux was in to replace the SGI machines. And, the production community realized they could each write tools or poet tools they were good at, share and share alike (to a point) and all be in business a whole lot cheaper and faster. That took a couple maybe few years. The "terminal" and what can happen in one and why really does matter. Windows Power Shell is pretty OK at this point, but it is still its own thing, not playing very nice with the other kids in the sane box. Lol, I always thought Microsoft happening in Redmond was symbolic. It really is!
account42 2y ago
> is nowhere to be found in the billions of appliances, etc. It is unfortunately found in plenty of embedded systems. Usually not in cheap end-user appliances though where it is outpriced due to both the OS license as well as the hardware required.

ddingus 2y ago

Seriously. Back in the 90's a lot of movie production was being done on the SGI IRIX computers. Jurassic Park themed ones even. Really spiffy machines with both an excellent GUI and terminal. Cheap WIN NT boxes with nVidia GPUs on them, were seen as the beat path forward. SGI gear is also Jurassic Park style, "Spare no expense" and was not cheap! Super expensive machines, but people got what they paid for too. Alias, Maya were ported to Windows and off to the races right? Nope. Unix scripting, that awesome terminal and friends made all the difference in the world. This was true even for smaller or single person shops who would do the work in a now slower SGI because the user experience was bang on point and that meant getting the desired outcome first time no bullshit. The minute we had nVidia drivers, Linux was in to replace the SGI machines. And, the production community realized they could each write tools or poet tools they were good at, share and share alike (to a point) and all be in business a whole lot cheaper and faster. That took a couple maybe few years. The "terminal" and what can happen in one and why really does matter. Windows Power Shell is pretty OK at this point, but it is still its own thing, not playing very nice with the other kids in the sane box. Lol, I always thought Microsoft happening in Redmond was symbolic. It really is!

account42 2y ago

> is nowhere to be found in the billions of appliances, etc. It is unfortunately found in plenty of embedded systems. Usually not in cheap end-user appliances though where it is outpriced due to both the OS license as well as the hardware required.