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I have great respect for Julia Evans and love her contributions that get shown here. But... > "I’ve always thought that vi mode seems really cool, but for som

I have great respect for Julia Evans and love her contributions that get shown here. But... > "I’ve always thought that vi mode seems really cool, but for some reason even though I’m a vim user I didn’t really like using it when I tried it." Really, that seems weird to me. I use zsh (btw) and the problem she describes is a non-issue. And I am not a pro. (Sorry, Julia).

drewg123 2y ago
I don't find that strange at all (prefering emacs to vi mode). I feel the same way. I use tcsh, and have it configured for emacs-style command line editing. I use emacs for complex stuff (coding) and vi for simple stuff (editing a config file), so I'm comfy with both. I think my issue is that it seems slightly unnatural to remember the mode I'm in on a random terminal command line, and much easier to just use the emacs keys to edit when needed.
sevg 2y ago
I have to agree with the other commenter (drewg123). Been a Vim user for decades but don't use Vi-mode in the terminal. > the problem she describes is a non-issue. And I am not a pro. Not sure what you're saying here. Julia didn't describe a problem but a preference ("I didn’t really like using it"). I'm not sure how you can you call someone's preference a non-issue. It's a preference and we're allowed to have those last I checked! :p
- I_complete_me 2y ago
  "even though entering some text and editing it is a very “basic” task, it took me maybe 15 years of using the terminal every single day to get used to using Ctrl+A to go to the beginning of the line (or Ctrl+E for the end)." This sounded to me like she was describing a problem. My bad. And I too am allowed express opinions, no?
  - sevg 2y ago
    In your first comment, you said it "seems weird" that Julia doesn't like Vi-mode. In this comment, you quote Julia talking about Emacs-mode. Which doesn't really follow on from your first comment.
    - I_complete_me 2y ago
      Thanks. I appreciate your civility. The lack of clarity is my fault. I felt Julia was describing a problem that she was having for 15 years to do with editing on the CLI. Then she said "even though I’m a vim user I didn’t really like using it when I tried it." To me, even still, it seems weird that there is a tool (vi-mode) that solves the problem she seemed to be describing earlier on. I am not denying that she "didn’t really like using it when I tried it". Not sure that even with this reply I have cleared up my earlier confusion-causing comment. I shall endeavour to refrain from further nonsense in the future.
      - sevg 2y ago
        Ah, this reply does indeed make it clearer what you were saying :) Whether I agree with what you were saying is a different matter (:p) but at least it makes more sense now!

drewg123 2y ago

I don't find that strange at all (prefering emacs to vi mode). I feel the same way. I use tcsh, and have it configured for emacs-style command line editing. I use emacs for complex stuff (coding) and vi for simple stuff (editing a config file), so I'm comfy with both. I think my issue is that it seems slightly unnatural to remember the mode I'm in on a random terminal command line, and much easier to just use the emacs keys to edit when needed.

sevg 2y ago

I have to agree with the other commenter (drewg123). Been a Vim user for decades but don't use Vi-mode in the terminal. > the problem she describes is a non-issue. And I am not a pro. Not sure what you're saying here. Julia didn't describe a problem but a preference ("I didn’t really like using it"). I'm not sure how you can you call someone's preference a non-issue. It's a preference and we're allowed to have those last I checked! :p

I_complete_me 2y ago
"even though entering some text and editing it is a very “basic” task, it took me maybe 15 years of using the terminal every single day to get used to using Ctrl+A to go to the beginning of the line (or Ctrl+E for the end)." This sounded to me like she was describing a problem. My bad. And I too am allowed express opinions, no?
- sevg 2y ago
  In your first comment, you said it "seems weird" that Julia doesn't like Vi-mode. In this comment, you quote Julia talking about Emacs-mode. Which doesn't really follow on from your first comment.
  - I_complete_me 2y ago
    Thanks. I appreciate your civility. The lack of clarity is my fault. I felt Julia was describing a problem that she was having for 15 years to do with editing on the CLI. Then she said "even though I’m a vim user I didn’t really like using it when I tried it." To me, even still, it seems weird that there is a tool (vi-mode) that solves the problem she seemed to be describing earlier on. I am not denying that she "didn’t really like using it when I tried it". Not sure that even with this reply I have cleared up my earlier confusion-causing comment. I shall endeavour to refrain from further nonsense in the future.
    - sevg 2y ago
      Ah, this reply does indeed make it clearer what you were saying :) Whether I agree with what you were saying is a different matter (:p) but at least it makes more sense now!