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It's just some water, okay, but that seems wrong to disturb people minding their own business. Plus how do they know those are tourists and not native Spaniards

It's just some water, okay, but that seems wrong to disturb people minding their own business. Plus how do they know those are tourists and not native Spaniards?

cpach 2y ago
Good question, and people who know Barcelona better might chime in to correct me, but if it was a restaurant on La Rambla it’s probably a high chance that there where mostly tourists there.
- AftHurrahWinch 2y ago
  You can see 2 seconds into the video that the people getting sprayed with water are eating at a Taco Bell. Geoguessing, I think it's this Taco Bell: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GqhrRobgQx6XUATo9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/GqhrRobgQx6XUATo9
  - cpach 2y ago
    To each their own, but IMHO it’s kind of sad that people make the trouble of going to another country and then end up dining at Taco Bell.
    - AftHurrahWinch 2y ago
      Agreed, and it is a microcosm of the discussion in this thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40908142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40908142) about who benefits from tourism spending. Perhaps if people were spending €8 at Abuela Rosa's Tortas instead of €6 at Taco Bell, a Yum! Brands experience brought to you by TriBrands Global the locals would be more welcoming.
    - olyjohn 2y ago
      What if they don't have Taco Bell where they are from? Do you have to eat out at bespoke mom and pop restaurants for every single meal just because you're a tourist? Sometimes you might just want to grab something fast on the way because you don't want to spend your entire vacation sitting in restaurants.
crispyambulance 2y ago
> Plus how do they know those are tourists and not native Spaniards? I can't speak for Spain, but it's obvious most of the time in other places. There's differences in the way they dress, their behaviors, the open tour maps, the snapping of pictures, the fact that they're often clumped together and arrive in tour buses-- and this is repeated over and over again with the same pattern, day after day. The air-bnb tourists, I think, are less noticeable. There's certainly a lot of them but they are distributed around the city and they tend to NOT group together to mob any one place. These tourists are likely to avoid the standard "tourist traps". Which type of tourist is the kind that inspires resentment from natives? I'm not so sure. The air-bnb tourists, in large-enough numbers, can cause rents to jack-up and THAT certainly hurts the locals. The tour-bus crowds, on the other hand, are more obvious and certainly change the optics of certain places. This eventually leads to the swallowing up of whole blocks with baubble shops and bad restaurants-- but only in certain contained areas and at certain times.
UtopiaPunk 2y ago
"seems wrong to disturb people minding their own business." I suspect the protestors feel like they are the ones being disturbed.

It's just some water, okay, but that seems wrong to disturb people minding their own business. Plus how do they know those are tourists and not native Spaniards?

cpach 2y ago

Good question, and people who know Barcelona better might chime in to correct me, but if it was a restaurant on La Rambla it’s probably a high chance that there where mostly tourists there.

AftHurrahWinch 2y ago
You can see 2 seconds into the video that the people getting sprayed with water are eating at a Taco Bell. Geoguessing, I think it's this Taco Bell: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GqhrRobgQx6XUATo9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/GqhrRobgQx6XUATo9
- cpach 2y ago
  To each their own, but IMHO it’s kind of sad that people make the trouble of going to another country and then end up dining at Taco Bell.
  - AftHurrahWinch 2y ago
    Agreed, and it is a microcosm of the discussion in this thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40908142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40908142) about who benefits from tourism spending. Perhaps if people were spending €8 at Abuela Rosa's Tortas instead of €6 at Taco Bell, a Yum! Brands experience brought to you by TriBrands Global the locals would be more welcoming.
  - olyjohn 2y ago
    What if they don't have Taco Bell where they are from? Do you have to eat out at bespoke mom and pop restaurants for every single meal just because you're a tourist? Sometimes you might just want to grab something fast on the way because you don't want to spend your entire vacation sitting in restaurants.

crispyambulance 2y ago

> Plus how do they know those are tourists and not native Spaniards? I can't speak for Spain, but it's obvious most of the time in other places. There's differences in the way they dress, their behaviors, the open tour maps, the snapping of pictures, the fact that they're often clumped together and arrive in tour buses-- and this is repeated over and over again with the same pattern, day after day. The air-bnb tourists, I think, are less noticeable. There's certainly a lot of them but they are distributed around the city and they tend to NOT group together to mob any one place. These tourists are likely to avoid the standard "tourist traps". Which type of tourist is the kind that inspires resentment from natives? I'm not so sure. The air-bnb tourists, in large-enough numbers, can cause rents to jack-up and THAT certainly hurts the locals. The tour-bus crowds, on the other hand, are more obvious and certainly change the optics of certain places. This eventually leads to the swallowing up of whole blocks with baubble shops and bad restaurants-- but only in certain contained areas and at certain times.

UtopiaPunk 2y ago

"seems wrong to disturb people minding their own business." I suspect the protestors feel like they are the ones being disturbed.