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India's government is dirt poor in comparison to China's government. Clean energy is expensive. Both governments are actually very pro-clean-energy and more wi
by dheera 2y ago
India's government is dirt poor in comparison to China's government. Clean energy is expensive.
Both governments are actually very pro-clean-energy and more willing to deploy it, given the money, than a certain two ~80-year-old farts that take turns every 4 years playing stupid politics games and picking fights.
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- lesuorac 2y ago> Clean energy is expensive. Eh, nuclear sure but in general no. That's the whole reason solar is becoming so popular is that it's cheaper [2]. If you have to pair solar with storage then it becomes more expensive [1] (general X+Y is more expensive than just X or Y). But uh, people tend to work when the sun shines so you can add a ton of solar to offset the increased energy usage during the day. [1]: https://www.powersouth.com/is-solar-cheaper-than-natural-gas/ https://www.powersouth.com/is-solar-cheaper-than-natural-gas... [2]: https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/natural_gas_vs._solar_cost_analysis_090607.pdf https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/natural_g...
- triceratops 2y agoIf it's such slam-dunk, why aren't all Western nations already at 100% solar and wind?
- bryanlarsen 2y agoNew builds are ~100% solar and wind.
- triceratops 2y agoI'm not talking about new builds. New builds in developed countries can be 100% renewable because there's enough installed non-renewable capacity available as fallback. Developing countries don't have that.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoYou just answered your own question. Developing nations aren't at 100% renewable because they already have a large amount of installed non-renewables.
- triceratops 2y agoErr...no. Developing countries tend to not have a large amount of anything. Definitionally they're poor and under-resourced. If their economies are growing, the grids are constantly playing catch-up with demand. Otherwise they're in a state of managed decline, or are an actual dumpster fire. Whatever the case may be, the one thing they don't have is reliable base generation capability. A safety net for when renewables can't produce enough.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoArg, typo. Developing -> Developed in my original comment.
- triceratops 2y agoGotcha. That's also why developing countries can't go 100% renewable.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoNot all. In Alberta, all that coal has switched to natural gas, and we have had large natural gas powered plants come online as of late. https://www.aeso.ca/market/market-updates/2023/new-assets-cascade-1-and-2-cas1-and-cas2-notice/ https://www.aeso.ca/market/market-updates/2023/new-assets-ca...
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