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> The power of having a bank account, of moving funds around, of signing contracts, etc. I don't think companies can sign contracts. What is the power of havin
by robertlagrant 2y ago
> The power of having a bank account, of moving funds around, of signing contracts, etc.
I don't think companies can sign contracts. What is the power of having a bank account and moving funds around? It's still people deciding to do this, and doing it, just under a group name. What power?
> Something that doesn't exist, a concept, enjoy many things a concrete human can do, but won't pay nearly the same consequences
People are still doing it. You seem to have totally mis-framed this. If you say "people can get away with doing things inside a company" you'd have a point, perhaps, but you're talking as though companies are sentient.
- actionfromafar 2y agoIt doesn't matter if they are sentient or not, does it? Maybe in the future they will be or act as if they were, but the result will be the same.
- robertlagrant 2y agoOf course it matters. What does it meant to punish something that isn't sentient? It's like bemoaning the fact that you can't punish the car that was driven into someone.
- actionfromafar 2y agoDepends on if you care about outcome or morality. Already now we use terms like punishment, reward and adverserial competition between neural networks.
- robertlagrant 2y agoWe do have those terms. The way they are used is not relevant here.
- actionfromafar 2y agoIf the entity (be it a corporation or AGI-driven corporation) learns from the punishment (or its peers learn by observation) it doesn't matter if the entity is sentient, the outcome is less of the unwanted behaviour. I didn't mean anything more complicated than that.
- robertlagrant 2y agoThe corporation cannot learn. Why anthropomorphise when you can actually think about the real problem: how to incentivise the people who own and direct companies to behave well.