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At Intel, nobody pays the grad student proportionally for their massive contribution to the bottom line.

by justinjlynn 2y ago

robertlagrant 2y ago
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- Hikikomori 2y ago
  You're funny.
- account42 2y ago
  Aka how to let the world be run by those who seek profit for themselves without consideration about the negative externalities.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    How to let the world be populated by people who can make free decisions about their work and their employer. Nothing to do with negative externalities, unless you think feudalism was particularly green.
    - analognoise 2y ago
      The two sides (A grad student, Intel) are not operating on an equal field. As such the "free decisions" aren't really a valid dimension for "free dimensions", as we have to include how unfair the field is in this case (...in all cases). Intel did 152 BILLION DOLLARS in stock buybacks over 35 years and ruined their own lead. They screwed/squeezed a lot of people so they could juice the stock price - to the point where they lost the semiconductor lead (as that wasn't what they were most worried about - they were mostly concerned with stock price). We need to consider all of these things when we determine if the field is fair for an employee.
      - robertlagrant 2y ago
        Of course it's not equal - it shouldn't be. If you want to be able to seriously negotiate with Intel as an equal, you have to do a lot more than be a grad student. But it's free. Which it should be.
        analognoise 2y ago
        We set the market, and should be equalizing the power between the two with regulation. Extensive regulation.
        robertlagrant 2y ago
        Why would one grad student have the same power as 10000 employees of a company? Surely when you're finishing with ominous repetition you must know something's a bit off[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
        klyrs 2y ago
        This turned into a bit of a toxic tangent, didn't it?

At Intel, nobody pays the grad student proportionally for their massive contribution to the bottom line.

robertlagrant 2y ago

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Hikikomori 2y ago
You're funny.
account42 2y ago
Aka how to let the world be run by those who seek profit for themselves without consideration about the negative externalities.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  How to let the world be populated by people who can make free decisions about their work and their employer. Nothing to do with negative externalities, unless you think feudalism was particularly green.
  - analognoise 2y ago
    The two sides (A grad student, Intel) are not operating on an equal field. As such the "free decisions" aren't really a valid dimension for "free dimensions", as we have to include how unfair the field is in this case (...in all cases). Intel did 152 BILLION DOLLARS in stock buybacks over 35 years and ruined their own lead. They screwed/squeezed a lot of people so they could juice the stock price - to the point where they lost the semiconductor lead (as that wasn't what they were most worried about - they were mostly concerned with stock price). We need to consider all of these things when we determine if the field is fair for an employee.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      Of course it's not equal - it shouldn't be. If you want to be able to seriously negotiate with Intel as an equal, you have to do a lot more than be a grad student. But it's free. Which it should be.
      - analognoise 2y ago
        We set the market, and should be equalizing the power between the two with regulation. Extensive regulation.
        robertlagrant 2y ago
        Why would one grad student have the same power as 10000 employees of a company? Surely when you're finishing with ominous repetition you must know something's a bit off[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
        klyrs 2y ago
        This turned into a bit of a toxic tangent, didn't it?