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I wouldn't blame the customer. If you put a pile of meth all over the food in a cage for a rat, its not like its the rats fault for becoming an addict or that t

by asdff 2y ago

I wouldn't blame the customer. If you put a pile of meth all over the food in a cage for a rat, its not like its the rats fault for becoming an addict or that they have any choice in the matter not to consume that meth. And if the rats start demanding meth are you going to point to the rats and blame them for being addicted or are you going to wise up and realize its inevitable given the setup? To put it more simply in the words of Henry Ford, you can buy a car in "any color the customer wants, as long as its black." You don't get choice in the market place.

s1artibartfast 2y ago
Humans have agency and self control IMO. People can and do regulate their behavior all the time. I Feel like viewing them as rats without agency is extremely cynical, but also self contradictory. If we are all rats then let's act like rats and simply act on our most base desire. If you think people should try to do anything otherwise, then you admit that they have agency. The market doesn't force you to buy a black Ford any more than it forces you to buy an F-350 with a lift kit and update the engine to roll coal. People choose to buy a car because it offers convenience, prestige, and they think it'll be better than not buying a car
486sx33 2y ago
So “safe supply” of drugs (meth) in your example, absolutely doesn’t work and will only get more people addicted? I mean, I don’t disagree but there is a significant amount of people who are pro safe supply
- boomboomsubban 2y ago
  Equating a safe supply with intentionally dosing their only available food is kind of ridiculous.
fshbbdssbbgdd 2y ago
I agree that it’s not the customer’s fault for buying and using what is offered to them. Furthermore, it’s not the producer’s fault for supplying it - after all, they are merely accepting money that is offered, acceding to demand. Spinoza figured it all out a long time ago.

by asdff 2y ago

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Humans have agency and self control IMO. People can and do regulate their behavior all the time. I Feel like viewing them as rats without agency is extremely cynical, but also self contradictory. If we are all rats then let's act like rats and simply act on our most base desire. If you think people should try to do anything otherwise, then you admit that they have agency. The market doesn't force you to buy a black Ford any more than it forces you to buy an F-350 with a lift kit and update the engine to roll coal. People choose to buy a car because it offers convenience, prestige, and they think it'll be better than not buying a car

486sx33 2y ago

So “safe supply” of drugs (meth) in your example, absolutely doesn’t work and will only get more people addicted? I mean, I don’t disagree but there is a significant amount of people who are pro safe supply

boomboomsubban 2y ago
Equating a safe supply with intentionally dosing their only available food is kind of ridiculous.

fshbbdssbbgdd 2y ago

I agree that it’s not the customer’s fault for buying and using what is offered to them. Furthermore, it’s not the producer’s fault for supplying it - after all, they are merely accepting money that is offered, acceding to demand. Spinoza figured it all out a long time ago.