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I've designed similar structures locally. Earthen, steel, and RC. There isn't a single reason for RC, but the biggest reason is that our local soil sucks and g
by beerandt 2y ago
I've designed similar structures locally. Earthen, steel, and RC.
There isn't a single reason for RC, but the biggest reason is that our local soil sucks and good soil to make 'well-engineered' earth structures is a limited resource.
Additionally, there's differences in engineering philosophy between public-works and the oil field (I do both), and it's probably the opposite of what most think. Especially wrt capitalization/ finance. Almost nothing is done cheapest, let alone cheap in the coastal oil field.
Oil wants it done for a known cost, even if higher up front, to have higher certainty in long-term risk/ or lower maintenance costs. (Also soil takes months longer to settle, and time might be big money, depending on the project.)
If that higher cost tanks the project numbers, fine; they have 100 other projects lined up to make that IRR without resorting cost/corner-cutting.
Other thoughts:
Stone that is suitable for armoring earthen structures isn't sourced locally. No mountains. Has to all be barged in.
And still wouldn't survive the constant battering of wind/waves (in both a long-term seasonal sense, as well as during an acute storm event) as well as concrete.
Subsidence of a pile supported concrete structure will match the adjacent pile supported facilities, and be minimal compared to an earthen structure, which will also have expected settling on top of subsidence.
Floodwalls can double as containment berms, and that adds many design considerations not typical for stand-alone flood structures, including chemical resistance and fire suppression.
But even something as simple as grass cutting might tip the scales. Lots of heli- or boat-only access facilities, and grass needs to be cut at least once per week during summer here. Maintaining grass/earth isn't necessarily cheaper when your yard guy needs a stack of govt twic/osha cards, a private ferry ride out, and probably transport to a private dock a few hours from town.
All of which just barely gets into the logistics involved in the industry.
>more likely to fail catastrophically
Maybe catastrophically, depending on how you want to define it, but less likely to fail overall. Concrete is more likely to fail in a predictable manor.
Even the Katrina concrete/steel 'floodwall' failures were actually soil failures, not RC or steel ones.
- tda 2y agoThanks for the insights. That cutting the grass would be a huge cost did not occur to me but with enough red tape I see that could be the case. Even though soil failure is the direct cause, if that fails the structure has failed. The reflex of adding more concrete does not always help. A hard, vertical structure is basically a concentrator for both currents and wave energy. So you need a huge scour protection or else the wall will only work very temporally. And a narrow structure is more susceptible to piping (where water finds a path under the structure and then erodes that away). This is of course also a soil failure, but unless you are building a boat you have to interface with the soil somewhere. And that is usually where your structure will fail...