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Definitely, they have been shot down lots as I mentioned. The problem is that they are cheap enough to have lots of them that can saturate the defenses. The Hou

Definitely, they have been shot down lots as I mentioned. The problem is that they are cheap enough to have lots of them that can saturate the defenses. The Houthis and Iranians haven't been able to arrange mass attack, either cause they are drones or couldn't assemble enough at once. One other factor is that they mostly work for shore defense since carrier or aircraft would use more effective weapons. Direct hit would hurt a carrier. I don't we have warhead sizes for Iranian ones but normal anti-ship missiles are 500-1000lb. Those probably wouldn't sink but could cripple it, forcing it to withdraw or knocking it out of action which makes more vulnerable.

onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago
> I don't we have warhead sizes for Iranian ones but normal anti-ship missiles are 500-1000lb Shahed payloads are 100lb. This is so deep into hypothetical territory. They can't even fly far enough to make it to an aircraft carrier in the first place. They'd get shot down by hornets, long before they arrived, if they even could. You'd need a swarm of 10k of these to even attempt taking on an aircraft carrier. Iran can barely produce 1k per year. The US is building & decommissioning multiple aircraft carriers per year. If you think 10 shaheds even pose a threat to a lone Destroyer, you're kidding yourself. There's a reason an aircraft carrier has never been sunk.
- ianburrell 2y ago
  Shahed is a range of drones from Shahed company. The Shahed 136 is the one your are talking about that Iran and Russia are making thousands. As I mentioned, they are limited usefulness in naval combat. I thought Iran was selling Russia low-cost long-range cruise missiles but hard to find article with drones and ballistic missiles. The Houthi do have copy of Iranian copy of Kh-55. The fact that rebels can build anti-ship missile, even a few, should be concerning. It means that more capable countries could build hundreds and overwhelm carrier group. Lots of aircraft carriers have been sunk. Are you thinking of only nuclear supercarriers? Cause of there has been no war where one could have been sunk. The Forrestal fire shows that they are vulnerable to a single rocket (Navy firefighting has gotten better as result). It doesn't matter if they are scuttled if destroyed by fire.
  - onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago
    > Lots of aircraft carriers have been sunk Not a single aircraft carrier has been sunk in combat.
    - ianburrell 2y ago
      Are you saying that none of the four Japanese carriers and one American carrier sunk in Battle of Midway weren't sunk in combat? Some were scuttled during the battle, but again, there isn't much practical difference between destroyed and sunk. There were also multiple carriers sunk by submarines. Torpedo counts as "in combat" and a few were in battles. Yorktown was crippled by bombers and then sunk by Japanese submarine. Zuikaku was quickly sunk by aircraft in Battle of Leyte Gulf. If you are talking about gunfire, HMS Glorious was sunk by Scharnhorst. So what are you talking about? Do you mean "post-war", "with missiles", or "supercarrier"? Cause you should say that. Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_aircraft_carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_aircraft_carrie...

onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago

> I don't we have warhead sizes for Iranian ones but normal anti-ship missiles are 500-1000lb Shahed payloads are 100lb. This is so deep into hypothetical territory. They can't even fly far enough to make it to an aircraft carrier in the first place. They'd get shot down by hornets, long before they arrived, if they even could. You'd need a swarm of 10k of these to even attempt taking on an aircraft carrier. Iran can barely produce 1k per year. The US is building & decommissioning multiple aircraft carriers per year. If you think 10 shaheds even pose a threat to a lone Destroyer, you're kidding yourself. There's a reason an aircraft carrier has never been sunk.

ianburrell 2y ago
Shahed is a range of drones from Shahed company. The Shahed 136 is the one your are talking about that Iran and Russia are making thousands. As I mentioned, they are limited usefulness in naval combat. I thought Iran was selling Russia low-cost long-range cruise missiles but hard to find article with drones and ballistic missiles. The Houthi do have copy of Iranian copy of Kh-55. The fact that rebels can build anti-ship missile, even a few, should be concerning. It means that more capable countries could build hundreds and overwhelm carrier group. Lots of aircraft carriers have been sunk. Are you thinking of only nuclear supercarriers? Cause of there has been no war where one could have been sunk. The Forrestal fire shows that they are vulnerable to a single rocket (Navy firefighting has gotten better as result). It doesn't matter if they are scuttled if destroyed by fire.
- onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago
  > Lots of aircraft carriers have been sunk Not a single aircraft carrier has been sunk in combat.
  - ianburrell 2y ago
    Are you saying that none of the four Japanese carriers and one American carrier sunk in Battle of Midway weren't sunk in combat? Some were scuttled during the battle, but again, there isn't much practical difference between destroyed and sunk. There were also multiple carriers sunk by submarines. Torpedo counts as "in combat" and a few were in battles. Yorktown was crippled by bombers and then sunk by Japanese submarine. Zuikaku was quickly sunk by aircraft in Battle of Leyte Gulf. If you are talking about gunfire, HMS Glorious was sunk by Scharnhorst. So what are you talking about? Do you mean "post-war", "with missiles", or "supercarrier"? Cause you should say that. Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_aircraft_carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_aircraft_carrie...