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Judge says FTC lacks authority to issue rule banning noncompete agreements

54 points by nobody9999 2y ago

helf 2y ago
Oh, a Texas judge. I'm shocked. Fucking shithole
sgarland 2y ago
> The lawsuit claimed that noncompete clauses "benefit employers and workers alike—the employer protects its workforce investments and sensitive information, and the worker benefits from increased training, access to more information, and an opportunity to bargain for higher pay." Oh, you’re serious. Sorry, let me laugh even harder. Companies famously give out attractive raises to retain individuals. They definitely do not give out pittances, and then act shocked when said individuals leave for a competitor. Honestly, I don’t give a shit if the FTC had the authority or not. Retroactively grant it to them or something. Non-competes are farcical for 99% of employees, and anyone trying to use them to bully people deserves to be mocked.
- cyanydeez 2y ago
  The administrative state is under attack and this is just one of the phalanx assaulting it in hopes of getting that sweet sweet 6-3 Love. The argument, of course, is that only Congress can do everything, and no one else should. Of course, if Congress does do something, it may or may not be constitutional, so really, only the judiciary should determine, bearing in mind that the president is unilaterally endowed with the power of official acts to right all things without due process, as long as his acts can be officially blessed, regardless of his intent.
  - Buttons840 2y ago
    Yeah, if congress manages to function at all, they can makes the law, but the courts can declare those laws unconstitutional for reasons not mentioned in the constitution, and in the end the laws are executed by a President who has no reason to consider the law in his official duties (since he's above the law when it comes to official duties, thus, why have any regard for the law at all).
    - cyanydeez 2y ago
      Precisely, just as, God intended.
    - redeeman 2y ago
      he is above the law in official duties, UNTIL impeached by congress, at which point he very much is not immune
      - Buttons840 2y ago
        I must have missed that part of the constitution. What part says that? Also, I think you mean not just impeached but also convicted. Assuming what you say it true, it's good to know that a President is subject to the law whenever an event that has never happened occurs.
        nobody9999 2y ago
        >Assuming what you say it true, it's good to know that a President is subject to the law whenever an event that has never happened occurs. Mr. Trump followed in Mr. Nixon's[1] footsteps. The difference is that this time the Supreme Court agreed with Mr. Trump. As Mr. Trump explained in this interview[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OID_n4aX1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OID_n4aX1o [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk Edit: Added link to Mr. Nixon's statements.
        lenkite 2y ago
        > Mr. Trump followed in Mr. Nixon's[1] footsteps. Don't get this. It was the Obama whitehouse (which included Biden as VP) that was proven to be spying upon Trump. So, how did Trump follow Nixon's footsteps ?
        nobody9999 2y ago
        >Don't get this. It was the Obama whitehouse (which included Biden as VP) that was proven to be spying upon Trump. So, how did Trump follow Nixon's footsteps ? Because you didn't follow the links, you made yourself look foolish by commenting on something completely unrelated to my comment. So sad.
- patrick451 2y ago
  Unelected bureaucrats making up laws on a whim is a massive problem. If you want non-competes to be illegal, lobby your congressman. In the mean time, stop signing them.
486sx33 2y ago
This represents the fundamental legal struggle that should have been solved in the Carter years. Out of control government agencies cannot change the country by issuing “rules” decided on by non elected officials. Congress needs to act for many of these items. We need to give the current speaker a lot of credit, not for his content, which is controversial at best. But for splitting up bills and trying to get back to “regular order” instead of wasting the year and then jamming through a frantic and gigantic “omnibus” bill at the 11 and a half’th hour. I don’t care which side of the political spectrum you’re on, the bush patriot act was wrong, bill clinton’s omni bus actions were wrong and trumps presidential actions were overreaching and were wrong. Governing by instructing your appointed federal agency leaders is the same garbage. This literally is the swamp they talk about. Congress needs to spend a lot more time exercising regular order. I encourage everyone to tell your congress-person this, the next time they ask for your vote or donation. “Congress is broken” so fix it, don’t just say congress is broken and then embrace socialism and tyranny!! The same centralization of power happened in Canada with the PMO’s office under Harper and then massively expanded again under the Trudeau liberals who expanded the size and role of the federal government in breathtaking ways.
- cyanydeez 2y ago
  Congress has be made to be beholded to the very people who want the administrative state to be impotent. Congrats on being that guy who believes it's just a series of tubes.
- squigz 2y ago
  > don’t just say congress is broken and then embrace socialism and tyranny!! This escalated quickly. How does socialism arise from what you're describing?
  - tcmart14 2y ago
    It doesn't. It just a case of perceived socialism is when capitalist governments 'do bad things' (aka things I don't like).
- 1shooner 2y ago
bionhoward 2y ago
Customer noncompete is also bad and most of the biggest AI companies are doing it right now. I worry about the impact on medical research.

54 points by nobody9999 2y ago

helf 2y ago

Oh, a Texas judge. I'm shocked. Fucking shithole

> The lawsuit claimed that noncompete clauses "benefit employers and workers alike—the employer protects its workforce investments and sensitive information, and the worker benefits from increased training, access to more information, and an opportunity to bargain for higher pay." Oh, you’re serious. Sorry, let me laugh even harder. Companies famously give out attractive raises to retain individuals. They definitely do not give out pittances, and then act shocked when said individuals leave for a competitor. Honestly, I don’t give a shit if the FTC had the authority or not. Retroactively grant it to them or something. Non-competes are farcical for 99% of employees, and anyone trying to use them to bully people deserves to be mocked.

cyanydeez 2y ago
The administrative state is under attack and this is just one of the phalanx assaulting it in hopes of getting that sweet sweet 6-3 Love. The argument, of course, is that only Congress can do everything, and no one else should. Of course, if Congress does do something, it may or may not be constitutional, so really, only the judiciary should determine, bearing in mind that the president is unilaterally endowed with the power of official acts to right all things without due process, as long as his acts can be officially blessed, regardless of his intent.
- Buttons840 2y ago
  Yeah, if congress manages to function at all, they can makes the law, but the courts can declare those laws unconstitutional for reasons not mentioned in the constitution, and in the end the laws are executed by a President who has no reason to consider the law in his official duties (since he's above the law when it comes to official duties, thus, why have any regard for the law at all).
  - cyanydeez 2y ago
    Precisely, just as, God intended.
  - redeeman 2y ago
    he is above the law in official duties, UNTIL impeached by congress, at which point he very much is not immune
    - Buttons840 2y ago
      I must have missed that part of the constitution. What part says that? Also, I think you mean not just impeached but also convicted. Assuming what you say it true, it's good to know that a President is subject to the law whenever an event that has never happened occurs.
      - nobody9999 2y ago
        >Assuming what you say it true, it's good to know that a President is subject to the law whenever an event that has never happened occurs. Mr. Trump followed in Mr. Nixon's[1] footsteps. The difference is that this time the Supreme Court agreed with Mr. Trump. As Mr. Trump explained in this interview[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OID_n4aX1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OID_n4aX1o [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk Edit: Added link to Mr. Nixon's statements.
        lenkite 2y ago
        > Mr. Trump followed in Mr. Nixon's[1] footsteps. Don't get this. It was the Obama whitehouse (which included Biden as VP) that was proven to be spying upon Trump. So, how did Trump follow Nixon's footsteps ?
        nobody9999 2y ago
        >Don't get this. It was the Obama whitehouse (which included Biden as VP) that was proven to be spying upon Trump. So, how did Trump follow Nixon's footsteps ? Because you didn't follow the links, you made yourself look foolish by commenting on something completely unrelated to my comment. So sad.
patrick451 2y ago
Unelected bureaucrats making up laws on a whim is a massive problem. If you want non-competes to be illegal, lobby your congressman. In the mean time, stop signing them.

486sx33 2y ago

This represents the fundamental legal struggle that should have been solved in the Carter years. Out of control government agencies cannot change the country by issuing “rules” decided on by non elected officials. Congress needs to act for many of these items. We need to give the current speaker a lot of credit, not for his content, which is controversial at best. But for splitting up bills and trying to get back to “regular order” instead of wasting the year and then jamming through a frantic and gigantic “omnibus” bill at the 11 and a half’th hour. I don’t care which side of the political spectrum you’re on, the bush patriot act was wrong, bill clinton’s omni bus actions were wrong and trumps presidential actions were overreaching and were wrong. Governing by instructing your appointed federal agency leaders is the same garbage. This literally is the swamp they talk about. Congress needs to spend a lot more time exercising regular order. I encourage everyone to tell your congress-person this, the next time they ask for your vote or donation. “Congress is broken” so fix it, don’t just say congress is broken and then embrace socialism and tyranny!! The same centralization of power happened in Canada with the PMO’s office under Harper and then massively expanded again under the Trudeau liberals who expanded the size and role of the federal government in breathtaking ways.

cyanydeez 2y ago
Congress has be made to be beholded to the very people who want the administrative state to be impotent. Congrats on being that guy who believes it's just a series of tubes.
squigz 2y ago
> don’t just say congress is broken and then embrace socialism and tyranny!! This escalated quickly. How does socialism arise from what you're describing?
- tcmart14 2y ago
  It doesn't. It just a case of perceived socialism is when capitalist governments 'do bad things' (aka things I don't like).
1shooner 2y ago

bionhoward 2y ago

Customer noncompete is also bad and most of the biggest AI companies are doing it right now. I worry about the impact on medical research.