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chromium is open source - have chromium standards set by a foundation instead of google. then funded by grants / taxes. etc and let the market work. browsers

by dzonga 2y ago

chromium is open source - have chromium standards set by a foundation instead of google. then funded by grants / taxes. etc and let the market work. browsers are a common utility, like water, internet etc - n should be treated the same.

Finnucane 2y ago
>let the market work. Chrome is a punch in the face by the invisible fist of the market.
m463 2y ago
I think you want: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium Without signing in to a Google Account, Chromium does pretty well in terms of security and privacy. However, Chromium still has some dependency on Google web services and binaries. In addition, Google designed Chromium to be easy and intuitive for users, which means they compromise on transparency and control of internal operations. ungoogled-chromium addresses these issues in the following ways: - Remove all remaining background requests to any web services while building and running the browser - Remove all code specific to Google web services - Remove all uses of pre-made binaries from the source code, and replace them with user-provided alternatives when possible. - Disable features that inhibit control and transparency, and add or modify features that promote them (these changes will almost always require manual activation or enabling).
- SahAssar 2y ago
  This relies on both googles funding of chromium and the free work of people contributing to this repo. The parent comment (and this whole post) is mostly about the funding of browsers.
  - m463 2y ago
    fund the right browser/codebase. If you were to fund, say chrome, you might waste your money. Might be similar to funding firefox, which has lots of telemetry baked in. Unless you could fund a "no-telemetry firefox", or a version of firefox with easy to implement self-hosted firefox sync and auth.
    - SahAssar 2y ago
      Do you not read the articles or the title or the comments before replying?

by dzonga 2y ago

Finnucane 2y ago

>let the market work. Chrome is a punch in the face by the invisible fist of the market.

m463 2y ago

I think you want: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium Without signing in to a Google Account, Chromium does pretty well in terms of security and privacy. However, Chromium still has some dependency on Google web services and binaries. In addition, Google designed Chromium to be easy and intuitive for users, which means they compromise on transparency and control of internal operations. ungoogled-chromium addresses these issues in the following ways: - Remove all remaining background requests to any web services while building and running the browser - Remove all code specific to Google web services - Remove all uses of pre-made binaries from the source code, and replace them with user-provided alternatives when possible. - Disable features that inhibit control and transparency, and add or modify features that promote them (these changes will almost always require manual activation or enabling).

SahAssar 2y ago
This relies on both googles funding of chromium and the free work of people contributing to this repo. The parent comment (and this whole post) is mostly about the funding of browsers.
- m463 2y ago
  fund the right browser/codebase. If you were to fund, say chrome, you might waste your money. Might be similar to funding firefox, which has lots of telemetry baked in. Unless you could fund a "no-telemetry firefox", or a version of firefox with easy to implement self-hosted firefox sync and auth.
  - SahAssar 2y ago
    Do you not read the articles or the title or the comments before replying?