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Money is not the Problem with firefox https://preview.redd.it/r9q69xop8n6d1.png?auto=webp&s=59a1d3c98d0f3f8e7cb457a6b374dea58d889048 https://preview.redd.it/r9q

• heinrich5991 2y ago
  This diagram should be zero-aligned at the very least.
• nozzlegear 2y ago
  This is misleading. Firefox does not have a CEO, Mozilla does. The Mozilla CEO/chairperson is responsible for many more projects than just increasing the market share of Firefox — whether nerds on Hacker News think that’s what Mozilla should be doing or not is another conversation.
  • mardifoufs 2y ago
    Sure, but their main project still is Firefox, by far. That's the project that has the most impact too. How successful are they with their side projects, anyways?
    • nozzlegear 2y ago
      > That's the project that has the most impact too. How do you measure impact? If it's income created for Mozilla Corp then I agree it's impactful too, and the CEO's pay does seem justified. > How successful are they with their side projects, anyways? Honestly I don't know, I haven't looked at their latest annual report. I do pay for Mozilla VPN, although I'm not a Firefox user.
      • lolinder 2y ago
        $75 million per year from subscriptions and ads, according to their latest report (2022 for some reason). Another commenter did some quick math to try to prove that donations were fruitless and found that Firefox could reasonably expect to replace that revenue with a donation box: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40901664 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40901664 So in other words: the side projects aren't successful enough to justify not accepting donations.
        • nozzlegear 2y ago
          I'm not opposed to a donation box at all, I'd donate myself even though I don't use Firefox.
  • wkat4242 2y ago
    So what else is it that she did do so amazingly well?
    • nozzlegear 2y ago
      According to this comment† from the very same post on Reddit: > [Mozilla] in 2018's cash flow was negative ~1 million dollars while in 2022 it actually profited ~167 million. A reply to that comment‡ states the following: > Also important is that if you look at their annual reports, while it's still the most significant revenue source, the percentage of revenue coming from search engine royalties (i.e. Google) has been steadily going downwards. Instead revenues from their other services (VPN, Pocket, etc) had been increasing steadily. And indeed we can verify those numbers on Wikipediaᵃ, where we see "Revenue derived from Google" trending downward every year. So it seems she's been A) successful with continuing the search engine deal with Google; and B) increasing revenue from their other services (VPN, Pocket, etc.) so that Google's contribution to the revenue pie chart slowly shrinks over time. † https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dg7ejv/comment/l8okegc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dg7ejv/co... ‡ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dg7ejv/comment/l8oqmrl/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dg7ejv/co... ᵃ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Finances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Finances