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M5? I want a Mac with an M4 but all they offer it on is an iPad Pro with virtually no functionality improvement over my current iPad Pro.

zamadatix 2y ago
Going from the M1 to M4 is barely worth the upgrade, is it really such a big deal it's been 4 months since the last MacBook Air SoC upgrade and it'll be another ~4 months until the next round releases on its usual schedule anyways? It's not like the iPad stole away time from the MacBook cadence by releasing first.
- paulmd 2y ago
  N3B is such a poorly-yielding node that it’s worth actively pushing up the release cycles and get people onto the next product, which will use N3E instead.
- daft_pink 2y ago
  While I agree that it doesn’t make sense to upgrade from M1 to M4 in many cases, imagine you want to purchase a two Mac Studios that are $4k-$5k each, because you need better monitor support and i/o, but you can only purchase a really old M2 model and all the Laptops are M3 perform better but lack some i/o and the iPad is M4. It’s super nice that they overengineer everything and that’s why I buy Apple products to be honest, but they should roll out their chips in a sensible way and not leave their most expenses products at the tail end to upgrade right before their release their next chip. Plus I think that it makes sense to wait for the M4, because it will have enough TOPs to support their future AI endeavors and will have a much longer useful life than purchasing and M2 studio today.
godelski 2y ago
Are you telling me that thinner isn't better? What else could you possibly want? Native pdf editors? Better and native applications to write, take notes, draw, and edit? Being able to draw/markup an overlay on the screen regardless of the app? Ability to ssh and use the iPad like a netbook? I think you're asking too much. It was a real great achievement that they made it thinner. Real creative thinking and this provides the most utility to users! The pencil is there for aesthetics anyways. And that's the biggest crime with the new iPad. That the pencil doesn't look different, so no one can tell that I'm using the new one from a distance. Big mistake Apple. Get your priorities right. It's not about making better technology, it is about status and getting rich. Obviously it is impossible to both make better technology and get rich at the same time, and we know which is more important.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  I know you are being sarcastic, but SSH from an iPad actually has worked for years.
  - nextos 2y ago
    What is your setup?
  - znpy 2y ago
    Yes, but handicapped. I have a Bluetooth keyboard and somehow all f-keys (F1-F12) just won’t register. The same happens in remote desktop from the ipad to a real computer. So yeah… it works as long as you stay within the limits apple has randomly chosen for you.
  - betaby 2y ago
    OP asked about ssh TO an iPad, not FROM.
    - Jtsummers 2y ago
      They wrote: >>> Ability to ssh and use the iPad like a netbook Note the order of the words and the comparison to a netbook. They did not ask about "ssh TO an iPad" (also, no need to shout, you can always use *to* to get to). In the comparison to a netbook, the use-case is ssh'ing from the device to other devices. Netbooks being a category of laptops that were small, generally underpowered, but typically with good battery life, great for mobile access to remote servers and workstations.
      - betaby 2y ago
        > Netbooks being a category of laptops that were small, generally underpowered, but typically with good battery life, great for mobile access to remote servers and workstations. I had netbook in ~2009 or something, it was with the Linux preinstalled (Ubuntu as I remember) and definitely had ability to log in into it. I absolutely associate netbook as a device to which I can log to.
downrightmike 2y ago
That's because they want people to write AI apps and the only place getting new apps made anymore is ipad and ios.

zamadatix 2y ago

Going from the M1 to M4 is barely worth the upgrade, is it really such a big deal it's been 4 months since the last MacBook Air SoC upgrade and it'll be another ~4 months until the next round releases on its usual schedule anyways? It's not like the iPad stole away time from the MacBook cadence by releasing first.

paulmd 2y ago
N3B is such a poorly-yielding node that it’s worth actively pushing up the release cycles and get people onto the next product, which will use N3E instead.
daft_pink 2y ago
While I agree that it doesn’t make sense to upgrade from M1 to M4 in many cases, imagine you want to purchase a two Mac Studios that are $4k-$5k each, because you need better monitor support and i/o, but you can only purchase a really old M2 model and all the Laptops are M3 perform better but lack some i/o and the iPad is M4. It’s super nice that they overengineer everything and that’s why I buy Apple products to be honest, but they should roll out their chips in a sensible way and not leave their most expenses products at the tail end to upgrade right before their release their next chip. Plus I think that it makes sense to wait for the M4, because it will have enough TOPs to support their future AI endeavors and will have a much longer useful life than purchasing and M2 studio today.

godelski 2y ago

Are you telling me that thinner isn't better? What else could you possibly want? Native pdf editors? Better and native applications to write, take notes, draw, and edit? Being able to draw/markup an overlay on the screen regardless of the app? Ability to ssh and use the iPad like a netbook? I think you're asking too much. It was a real great achievement that they made it thinner. Real creative thinking and this provides the most utility to users! The pencil is there for aesthetics anyways. And that's the biggest crime with the new iPad. That the pencil doesn't look different, so no one can tell that I'm using the new one from a distance. Big mistake Apple. Get your priorities right. It's not about making better technology, it is about status and getting rich. Obviously it is impossible to both make better technology and get rich at the same time, and we know which is more important.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
I know you are being sarcastic, but SSH from an iPad actually has worked for years.
- nextos 2y ago
  What is your setup?
- znpy 2y ago
  Yes, but handicapped. I have a Bluetooth keyboard and somehow all f-keys (F1-F12) just won’t register. The same happens in remote desktop from the ipad to a real computer. So yeah… it works as long as you stay within the limits apple has randomly chosen for you.
- betaby 2y ago
  OP asked about ssh TO an iPad, not FROM.
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    They wrote: >>> Ability to ssh and use the iPad like a netbook Note the order of the words and the comparison to a netbook. They did not ask about "ssh TO an iPad" (also, no need to shout, you can always use *to* to get to). In the comparison to a netbook, the use-case is ssh'ing from the device to other devices. Netbooks being a category of laptops that were small, generally underpowered, but typically with good battery life, great for mobile access to remote servers and workstations.
    - betaby 2y ago
      > Netbooks being a category of laptops that were small, generally underpowered, but typically with good battery life, great for mobile access to remote servers and workstations. I had netbook in ~2009 or something, it was with the Linux preinstalled (Ubuntu as I remember) and definitely had ability to log in into it. I absolutely associate netbook as a device to which I can log to.

downrightmike 2y ago

That's because they want people to write AI apps and the only place getting new apps made anymore is ipad and ios.