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Zuckerberg: “Finally, I think there's also some distinction between me and the company here. While our company has a special role in the lives of this generatio
by krustyburger 2y ago
Zuckerberg: “Finally, I think there's also some distinction between me and the company here. While our company has a special role in the lives of this generation, this is likely particularly important for how I show up because I am the most well-known person of my generation.”
Does he really think he’s better known than, say, Lebron James or Lionel Messi?
- Kiro 2y agoInfuriating that you actually think Lebron James is that famous outside the US.
- AlchemistCamp 2y agoHe's very well known in China and has massive sponsorships deals there.
- transcriptase 2y agoI couldn’t pick Lionel Messi out of a lineup if you put a gun to my head, and I’m only 80% sure he’s a soccer player. So… yes?
- jerojero 2y agoThe hubris of thinking you're representative of the world. I think there's a better chance of Messi being known because there's more people in Europe and Latin America that are fans of football than corporations. Even Africa, soccer is quite a popular sport. Now, for Asia, I'm not sure. That's where the game would be played. In a lot of ways when these people say "the world" they mean the subset of people they actually care about. Mostly, US Americans and perhaps Canadians.
- transcriptase 2y agoI think it’s odd to assume that people in Europe, Latin America, and Africa wouldn’t know who the creator of Facebook is, like he’s some obscure figure only known to G7 countries and tech enthusiasts.
- AlchemistCamp 2y agoMore people live in America, India and China than all of Africa, Latin America and Europe combined. > The hubris of thinking you're representative of the world. Indeed.
- sircastor 2y agoYes, I think he is. And I don’t think his claim is unreasonable. I have heard of Lebron and Messi, but haven’t seen either of them play. Ever. Lebron is Basketball, and I’m pretty sure Messi is soccer, but I only know that because the latter came up in conversations about Apple buying sports rights. I would say there are more people engaging with Instagram and Facebook than there are with basketball. I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s a limited viewpoint, just as mine is.
- daghamm 2y agoHave seen both play, haven't seen Zuckerberg lead...
- miki123211 2y agoDepends on where you live, in Europe Messi is very well known for example, Lebron I've never heard of, Zuckerberg is known by people in tech and maybe some others. I'd bet on some singer or actor / actress being the most well known globally. There's always a possibility that it's some Chinese / Indian person that is completely unknown outside their own country, but because of that country's size still ends up "the most well-known"
- Kamq 2y ago> I'd bet on some singer or actor / actress being the most well known globally. I'm willing to bet it's Mia Khalifa
- krustyburger 2y agoThe number of users of Meta products is one thing, Zuckerberg’s personal fame is another. Conflating the two would imply that, for example, Phil Knight is one of the best known people in the world because of the ubiquity of his company, Nike. That’s obviously not the case. Based on this email, Zuckerberg seems to have an exaggerated sense of just how well-known he personally is.
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- veryfancy 2y agoIt’s not unreasonable. I like Messi as a better suggestion though.
- morsch 2y agoAmong those three, I think there's no competition, Zuckerberg is easily the most well-known.
- hnhg 2y agoI could believe that a lot of people under 20 would not know who Zuckerberg is at all, but definitely know who Messi is, if we are talking outside of the USA. Cristiano Ronaldo would be another.
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- vlovich123 2y agoGoogle trends would disagree with you: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&geo=US&q=zuckerberg,messi,lebron,biden,trump&hl=en https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&geo=... As expected, Biden and Trump as presidential candidates and former POTUS are better known. Messi has way better recognition than Lebron worldwide owing to soccer's broader appeal and popularity. Search interest obviously isn't a direct correlation to name recognition - you can have recognition and no one is interested in you - but I'd say it's far more likely that people know who Lionel Messi is considering he won the World Cup in a spectacular fashion and 1.5B people watched the world cup live & I'm sure more than that many people heard about it.
- morsch 2y ago> Search interest obviously isn't a direct correlation to name recognition No, it is not, but I'm willing to admit that my antipathy towards spectator sports may have led me astray here.
- tasuki 2y agoI know who Lionel Messi is, and I read the article that he walks better than other people run (he walks to the right place, while they run to the wrong place). But, what do you mean he won the World Cup in a spectacular fashion? Link to a video of that?
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- kubectl_h 2y agoA charitable reading of this would be that he means this within the scope of Facebook itself. In the preceding paragraph he talking about Facebook being built by millennials and it's utility, product evolution and comms reflecting their life changes, so it's possible he is talking about how to separate himself out from it's evolution in that direction so people just don't think "facebook is doing this thing because zuck is getting older" and instead see it as a reflection of the journey of the people that build the company. But I dunno, he may just actually believe he's the most famous millennial ever. He's up there but I don't know how one could ever quantify that.
- ksec 2y ago>Does he really think he’s better known than, say, Lebron James or Lionel Messi? Depends. There are lots of people who aren't into Basketball or Football. But there are ~3B user who uses Facebook and Instagram. Technology has such a wide reach these days I would not be surprised if he is better known.
- kristiandupont 2y agoBeing on Facebook does not mean you know who Mark Zuckerberg is.
- ksec 2y agoI think Bill Gate and Steve Jobs are pretty well known, even in my circle of people who dont even know what a CPU is. Nearly everyone who uses an iPhone know or have at least heard of Steve Jobs. Although arguably Mark Zuckerberg dont get as much press as them.
- BobbyJo 2y agoDespite being online, Zuckerberg has not heard of Taylor Swift. Wild.
- entropie 2y agoI think the biggest revelation is that he says he's the most famous of his generation, not "one of the most famous". That says a lot about his personality. Has anyone ever asked him if he's a narcissist?
- silisili 2y agoYeah, I don't buy it. I think he's among the most well known tech guys, but not overall. I have to imagine sports stars like you mentioned, or singers like Swift or Adele, or even movie stars are more well known than Zuck.
- seoulmetro 2y agoYou show every single millennial in the world a picture of Messi then a picture of Zuck, Zuck will lead, for sure. If you show Elon Musk the same will be true. Messi is more popular, not more known.