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> The Solution is to Replicate the Embed Experience Another Way. No, The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. When it would be

> The Solution is to Replicate the Embed Experience Another Way. No, The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. When it would be on WSJ and The Guardian front page then, maybe, you would see the result. Replacing the embed a one server/page is like pissing in the ocean - feels great, does nothing.

coldtea 2y ago
>When it would be on WSJ and The Guardian front page then, maybe, you would see the result Good luck with that. Not to mention WSJ and The Guardian themselves are babanas heavy for no good reason - like every other media site.
haliskerbas 2y ago
No one gets a promo for maintenance work. Especially at places like google.
- stevekemp 2y ago
  "I saved XXTb of bandwidth with this one simple change!"
  - popcalc 2y ago
    Could be resume fodder.
QuinnyPig 2y ago
The front page of Hacker News remains one of the only effective places to file bug reports against Google products.
zinekeller 2y ago
> No, The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. When a different part of Google publicly shames YT devs for this exact thing (https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices#use_click-to-load_to_enhance_facades https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices#use_click-to-l...), you know that there's little hope for change.
veeti 2y ago
Google PageSpeed will gladly shame you for using the slow YouTube embed.
troupo 2y ago
> The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. They don't care/internal company policies are misaligned. Here's Chrome's engineering leader saying that 2.4 seconds to load a page on Reddit is fast actually: https://x.com/addyosmani/status/1678117107597471745 https://x.com/addyosmani/status/1678117107597471745 Here's him also writing a huge article on using third-party scripts to improve Youtube embeds because that's apparently better than fixing actual Youtube embeds: https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices BTW, do you know that Youtube's desktop site loads an 2.5 MB CSS file (and 11 MB of Javascript)?

coldtea 2y ago

>When it would be on WSJ and The Guardian front page then, maybe, you would see the result Good luck with that. Not to mention WSJ and The Guardian themselves are babanas heavy for no good reason - like every other media site.

haliskerbas 2y ago

No one gets a promo for maintenance work. Especially at places like google.

stevekemp 2y ago
"I saved XXTb of bandwidth with this one simple change!"
- popcalc 2y ago
  Could be resume fodder.

QuinnyPig 2y ago

The front page of Hacker News remains one of the only effective places to file bug reports against Google products.

zinekeller 2y ago

> No, The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. When a different part of Google publicly shames YT devs for this exact thing (https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices#use_click-to-load_to_enhance_facades https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices#use_click-to-l...), you know that there's little hope for change.

veeti 2y ago

Google PageSpeed will gladly shame you for using the slow YouTube embed.

troupo 2y ago

> The Solution is to publicly shame Google Inc for wasting the resources. They don't care/internal company policies are misaligned. Here's Chrome's engineering leader saying that 2.4 seconds to load a page on Reddit is fast actually: https://x.com/addyosmani/status/1678117107597471745 https://x.com/addyosmani/status/1678117107597471745 Here's him also writing a huge article on using third-party scripts to improve Youtube embeds because that's apparently better than fixing actual Youtube embeds: https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices https://web.dev/articles/embed-best-practices BTW, do you know that Youtube's desktop site loads an 2.5 MB CSS file (and 11 MB of Javascript)?