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Interestingly, there have been studies that show that students lectured to feel like they’ve learned more, and self-report that they have, while students learni
by smogcutter 2y ago
Interestingly, there have been studies that show that students lectured to feel like they’ve learned more, and self-report that they have, while students learning the same material in self-guided labs report feeling like they’ve learned less but perform better on assessments.
- JustinSkycak 2y agoThis description confounds two independent variables: "active vs passive learning" and "direct vs unguided instruction." The studies you refer to are demonstrating that active/unguided is superior to passive/direct. But the full picture is that active/direct > active/unguided > passive/direct. (I didn't include passive/unguided here because I'm not sure it's possible to create such a combination.) Other studies -- that only manipulate one variable at a time -- support this big picture.
- Jensson 2y ago> (I didn't include passive/unguided here because I'm not sure it's possible to create such a combination.) Its possible, we call the end result LLM. It isn't very effective though as we can see from the result and how much learning it took.
- smogcutter 2y agoWell, sure. But very few formal educational settings are purely active/unguided. Unfortunately passive/direct is much more common. To me though the more interesting result isn’t really about pedagogy, it’s that people’s (undergrad physics students, in the case of the specific study I’m thinking of) subjective impressions of the effectiveness of instruction are unreliable.
- JustinSkycak 2y ago> subjective impressions of the effectiveness of instruction are unreliable Yes, common finding in studies that explore subjective vs objective measurements of learning under conditions involving "desirable difficulties": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desirable_difficulty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desirable_difficulty