I'm not raising the cygwin devs beyond criticism. I don't even think they themselves do this, at least not in the way that you describe gnome (which is a point

I'm not raising the cygwin devs beyond criticism. I don't even think they themselves do this, at least not in the way that you describe gnome (which is a point well taken). I think that this small handful of smart developers are more influenced by their own personality than a larger more inclusive group might be, and their interaction, as I have observed in their response to requests and criticism, is somewhat abrasive. "Curt." I don't worry about it, because I can't play in their sphere. I'm happy to have it, like I'm happy to have gravity, and I can't change or influence either one. The installer actually has improved incrementally over the years. apt-cyg would be nice, but it's reasonable for them to triage it off the list of things to do, since anyone who cares can install it themselves.