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Idk I been to a dairy farm in central Italy, the margins aren’t that great for the farmer. He was mostly self employed working literal 10+ hour days. The superm

Idk I been to a dairy farm in central Italy, the margins aren’t that great for the farmer. He was mostly self employed working literal 10+ hour days. The supermarkets get most of the cut. He explained getting a worker trained and then paying them wasn’t feasible.

alephnerd 2y ago
You can't justify leaving migrant workers to literally die due to workplace accidents and not taking them to get medical care [0][1] This has been an issue for decades in Italy. While Italy might be in Europe, it's rule of law and lack of support for those at the bottom rung of society is comparable to (not much) poorer Eastern European peers like Czechia. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49687248 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49687248 [1] - https://www.meltingpot.org/2024/06/a-latina-satnam-singh-e-stato-ucciso-dal-sistema-di-sfruttamento/ https://www.meltingpot.org/2024/06/a-latina-satnam-singh-e-s...
- eddiewithzato 2y ago
  I’m saying there was workers beside the farmer in the dairy farm I visited
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    Yes. But being a small farm does not absolve you from following very basic employee safety laws that are mandated within the EU. The Dairy you went to might be better run, but the experiences tend to trend closer to the negative experiences I've mentioned. And this is something that has been reported on for over a decade [0][1][2][3][4], yet nothing has changed. [0] - https://theecologist.org/2013/jan/04/migrant-workers-face-severe-exploitation-italys-farm-sector https://theecologist.org/2013/jan/04/migrant-workers-face-se... [1] - https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2015/12/09/Food-industry-worker-abuse-warning https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2015/12/09/Food-in... [2] - https://www.ilo.org/it/media/94341/download https://www.ilo.org/it/media/94341/download [3] - https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/on-tuscanys-farms-women-migrant-laborers-face-exploitation/ https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/on-tuscanys-farms-women-mi... [4] - https://www.cgil.it/speciali/2024/la-precarieta-ha-troppe-facce/stagionali-e-agricoli-tra-irregolarita-e-sfruttamento-in-cerca-dei-diritti-hq9y6k1z https://www.cgil.it/speciali/2024/la-precarieta-ha-troppe-fa...

alephnerd 2y ago

You can't justify leaving migrant workers to literally die due to workplace accidents and not taking them to get medical care [0][1] This has been an issue for decades in Italy. While Italy might be in Europe, it's rule of law and lack of support for those at the bottom rung of society is comparable to (not much) poorer Eastern European peers like Czechia. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49687248 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49687248 [1] - https://www.meltingpot.org/2024/06/a-latina-satnam-singh-e-stato-ucciso-dal-sistema-di-sfruttamento/ https://www.meltingpot.org/2024/06/a-latina-satnam-singh-e-s...

eddiewithzato 2y ago
I’m saying there was workers beside the farmer in the dairy farm I visited
- alephnerd 2y ago
  Yes. But being a small farm does not absolve you from following very basic employee safety laws that are mandated within the EU. The Dairy you went to might be better run, but the experiences tend to trend closer to the negative experiences I've mentioned. And this is something that has been reported on for over a decade [0][1][2][3][4], yet nothing has changed. [0] - https://theecologist.org/2013/jan/04/migrant-workers-face-severe-exploitation-italys-farm-sector https://theecologist.org/2013/jan/04/migrant-workers-face-se... [1] - https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2015/12/09/Food-industry-worker-abuse-warning https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2015/12/09/Food-in... [2] - https://www.ilo.org/it/media/94341/download https://www.ilo.org/it/media/94341/download [3] - https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/on-tuscanys-farms-women-migrant-laborers-face-exploitation/ https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/on-tuscanys-farms-women-mi... [4] - https://www.cgil.it/speciali/2024/la-precarieta-ha-troppe-facce/stagionali-e-agricoli-tra-irregolarita-e-sfruttamento-in-cerca-dei-diritti-hq9y6k1z https://www.cgil.it/speciali/2024/la-precarieta-ha-troppe-fa...