In Hicksons own words: "The reality is that for all of the work that we've put into HTML, and CSS, and the DOM, it has fundamentally utterly failed to deliver

In Hicksons own words: "The reality is that for all of the work that we've put into HTML, and CSS, and the DOM, it has fundamentally utterly failed to deliver on its promise. It's even worse than that, actually, because all of the things we've built aren't just not doing what we want, they're holding developers back. People build their applications on frameworks that _abstract out_ all the APIs we build for browsers, and _even with those frameworks_ developers are hamstrung by weird limitations of the web." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34622514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34622514 We can pretend that the W3C eggheads were up there in ivory towers with no understanding of how the web should move forward, but the reality is that a lot of modern web dev is tree like data structures being sent across the web to be rendered with client side templates, exactly what they were aiming for with XML and XSLT. Namespaces, custom elements, client side templating and more, the web had it all and threw it away so that we can instead spend the next century reimplementing worse versions of what XML provided out of the box.