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Came here to say that! It's a nice app and very innovative, but if I have fire up a f*** VPN every time I want to listen to stations outside the UK, forget it!

Came here to say that! It's a nice app and very innovative, but if I have fire up a f*** VPN every time I want to listen to stations outside the UK, forget it! I don't think the developers care either: I've emailed numerous times without an answer, and even less-than-favourable reviews on the App Store failed to elicit a response. At least tell us the reason for the UK- hatred if you're not going to fix it?!

bix6 2y ago
It’s a copyright issue. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Garden https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Garden “unfortunately the restriction must be extended for an indefinite period due to copyright and neighbouring rights related matters that require clarification. ”
- dwroberts 2y ago
  (Edited from original comment): Found the actual cause of the problem: https://mediawrites.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/judgment.pdf https://mediawrites.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/judgment.... Just like TuneIn, they are behaving like a broadcaster and aren't paying license fees, so I guess they are afraid of similar legal action
zarzavat 2y ago
Not sure if it’s still true but you can disable the check very easily using devtools. No need for a VPN.
kreetx 2y ago
Do you happen to know, why are they not using TLS?
- K7PJP 2y ago
  “Our original configuration was fully HTTPS-enabled; however, we had to adjust this when browser manufacturers started blocking HTTPS websites from loading HTTP streams. Approximately 20% of the stations featured on Radio Garden are accessible via HTTP streams, which would become inaccessible if we switched entirely to HTTPS. Given the recent changes in Chrome's behavior towards forcing an HTTPS connection, we are considering moving back to an all-HTTPS setup in the near future.” https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioGarden/s/0FByul10C0 https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioGarden/s/0FByul10C0
  - kreetx 2y ago
    Thanks! I wish they had a https site that had some mechanism (even manual instruction) to go around that issue.

bix6 2y ago

It’s a copyright issue. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Garden https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Garden “unfortunately the restriction must be extended for an indefinite period due to copyright and neighbouring rights related matters that require clarification. ”

dwroberts 2y ago
(Edited from original comment): Found the actual cause of the problem: https://mediawrites.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/judgment.pdf https://mediawrites.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/judgment.... Just like TuneIn, they are behaving like a broadcaster and aren't paying license fees, so I guess they are afraid of similar legal action

zarzavat 2y ago

Not sure if it’s still true but you can disable the check very easily using devtools. No need for a VPN.

kreetx 2y ago

Do you happen to know, why are they not using TLS?

K7PJP 2y ago
“Our original configuration was fully HTTPS-enabled; however, we had to adjust this when browser manufacturers started blocking HTTPS websites from loading HTTP streams. Approximately 20% of the stations featured on Radio Garden are accessible via HTTP streams, which would become inaccessible if we switched entirely to HTTPS. Given the recent changes in Chrome's behavior towards forcing an HTTPS connection, we are considering moving back to an all-HTTPS setup in the near future.” https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioGarden/s/0FByul10C0 https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioGarden/s/0FByul10C0
- kreetx 2y ago
  Thanks! I wish they had a https site that had some mechanism (even manual instruction) to go around that issue.