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Because Chinese are already ahead of almost everyone in terms of emission reductions and nuclear won't solve anything. That's why you don't see people involved

by js8 2y ago

Because Chinese are already ahead of almost everyone in terms of emission reductions and nuclear won't solve anything. That's why you don't see people involved in these activities.

plemer 2y ago
Why couldn’t nuclear solve anything?
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Nuclear is a red herring. It takes way to long and is way too expensive. Keep bringing solar and wind online, and if your nuclear plant ever gets finished, that will be nice too.
  - graemep 2y ago
    > . Keep bringing solar and wind online What happens if you get an extended period of low winds? Cloudy weather? You need a LOT of extra capacity and storage.
- wdh505 2y ago
  Successful fossil fuel propaganda given 10+ years to build and a single political cycle across that time to keep it closed before ever being "turned on". - source happened to my relatives grids a few times, and they got pretty cynical to the "tax" imposed to get nuclear then no nuclear.
- js8 2y ago
  I don't think there is enough nuclear fuel for everyone to significantly (more than several times than today) run on nuclear. Yes, there are these breeder ideas, but it's not mature. So (aside from capital costs) it will generate only a relatively small portion of total electricity consumption.
d0mine 2y ago
China plans to quadruple their nuclear output from ~50GW (~5% of total) to 200GW by 2030 and even more later 1400GW by 2100. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China
graemep 2y ago
Because they want to reduce their reliance on Middle Eastern oil that can be easily blockaded in the event of a war with the US. I think that sets the pattern for emissions reactions: they will happen when people have other reasons to do it as an incidental benefit.
- js8 2y ago
  No, they are ahead for far simpler reasons - China is going to be extremely affected by climate change due to its geography, and they don't share our irrational belief in the free market. They also don't have fossil fuel incumbents manipulating the public opinion.

by js8 2y ago

Because Chinese are already ahead of almost everyone in terms of emission reductions and nuclear won't solve anything. That's why you don't see people involved in these activities.

plemer 2y ago

Why couldn’t nuclear solve anything?

amanaplanacanal 2y ago
Nuclear is a red herring. It takes way to long and is way too expensive. Keep bringing solar and wind online, and if your nuclear plant ever gets finished, that will be nice too.
- graemep 2y ago
  > . Keep bringing solar and wind online What happens if you get an extended period of low winds? Cloudy weather? You need a LOT of extra capacity and storage.
wdh505 2y ago
Successful fossil fuel propaganda given 10+ years to build and a single political cycle across that time to keep it closed before ever being "turned on". - source happened to my relatives grids a few times, and they got pretty cynical to the "tax" imposed to get nuclear then no nuclear.
js8 2y ago
I don't think there is enough nuclear fuel for everyone to significantly (more than several times than today) run on nuclear. Yes, there are these breeder ideas, but it's not mature. So (aside from capital costs) it will generate only a relatively small portion of total electricity consumption.

d0mine 2y ago

China plans to quadruple their nuclear output from ~50GW (~5% of total) to 200GW by 2030 and even more later 1400GW by 2100. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China

graemep 2y ago

Because they want to reduce their reliance on Middle Eastern oil that can be easily blockaded in the event of a war with the US. I think that sets the pattern for emissions reactions: they will happen when people have other reasons to do it as an incidental benefit.

js8 2y ago
No, they are ahead for far simpler reasons - China is going to be extremely affected by climate change due to its geography, and they don't share our irrational belief in the free market. They also don't have fossil fuel incumbents manipulating the public opinion.