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A Hacker Stole OpenAI Secrets, Raising Fears That China Could, Too

31 points by samspenc 2y ago

p1esk 2y ago
Has that stolen info been published anywhere?
- artninja1988 2y ago
  Asking for a friend?
- gwern 2y ago
  It's been rumored that the SemiconductorAnalysis GPT-4 arch leak might be from here.
talldayo 2y ago
Seems unlikely. After all, OpenAI was made by the same dude that started WorldCoin, a product famed for having "No Vulnerabilities": https://dailycoin.com/worldcoin-has-no-vulnerabilities-claims-new-audit/ https://dailycoin.com/worldcoin-has-no-vulnerabilities-claim...
ein0p 2y ago
Most of us are rational people here. Given that, how likely do you think it is to have no foreign intelligence agents on your payroll unknowingly in a strategic company like this one which has several thousand employees? And I don’t just mean Chinese, I mean every country with a competent foreign intelligence service.
southernplaces7 2y ago
Given all that North Korea has shown itself to be capable of exfiltrating and hacking, and all that many private hackers have been able to steal from multiple major companies with "good security", I have little doubt that a hugely powerful and capable state like China's could indeed break into OpenAI's data if they really wanted to. Though, if they could, I imagine they'd be subtle about it, maybe even having employees in this or other companies working there as deep cover agents, possibly for years. No, none of this is absurd. The USSR did it effectively for decades even digging into undertakings as deeply sensitive as the Manhattan Project.
1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20240704090503if_/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240704090503if_/https://www.ny...
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.html?unlocked_article_code=1.400.VSwD.N-Tzx1ND4rRB&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.ht... (As submitted a few times this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40882525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40882525, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40874452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40874452)

31 points by samspenc 2y ago

p1esk 2y ago

Has that stolen info been published anywhere?

artninja1988 2y ago
Asking for a friend?
gwern 2y ago
It's been rumored that the SemiconductorAnalysis GPT-4 arch leak might be from here.

talldayo 2y ago

Seems unlikely. After all, OpenAI was made by the same dude that started WorldCoin, a product famed for having "No Vulnerabilities": https://dailycoin.com/worldcoin-has-no-vulnerabilities-claims-new-audit/ https://dailycoin.com/worldcoin-has-no-vulnerabilities-claim...

ein0p 2y ago

Most of us are rational people here. Given that, how likely do you think it is to have no foreign intelligence agents on your payroll unknowingly in a strategic company like this one which has several thousand employees? And I don’t just mean Chinese, I mean every country with a competent foreign intelligence service.

southernplaces7 2y ago

Given all that North Korea has shown itself to be capable of exfiltrating and hacking, and all that many private hackers have been able to steal from multiple major companies with "good security", I have little doubt that a hugely powerful and capable state like China's could indeed break into OpenAI's data if they really wanted to. Though, if they could, I imagine they'd be subtle about it, maybe even having employees in this or other companies working there as deep cover agents, possibly for years. No, none of this is absurd. The USSR did it effectively for decades even digging into undertakings as deeply sensitive as the Manhattan Project.

1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20240704090503if_/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240704090503if_/https://www.ny...

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.html?unlocked_article_code=1.400.VSwD.N-Tzx1ND4rRB&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/technology/openai-hack.ht... (As submitted a few times this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40882525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40882525, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40874452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40874452)